Does the USA have any viable 14.3 jets that won't be DOA?

more AOA doesnt save a plane, the SEPECAT Jaguar pulls brilliant AOA but still blows because of a poor initial and sustained turn rate.

I doubt it will be a 90s raptor as that would only get AIM-120 and AIM-9M

I think its more likley to be a mid noughties raptor where it has 9X and good AMRAAMs but no HMD to give the guys with only super hornets, gripen or lightnin iis a chance.

Uhhh f18 early and late? We can definitely have a f22 early and late. And if they give american f22 early vs su57. oh man

What I said was ‘want to,’ because here you can’t use the F-5 to climb — it’s obviously useless. It’s not that players don’t want to fly high, it’s just that they don’t have the capability to do it.

If you don’t have good RWR and any Fox-1 or Fox-3 missiles to fight back against opponents who do have those capabilities, then you’re forced to fly low — it’s not because you want to.

Most aircraft from 11.0 and below don’t have good RWR or Fox-1s, so they don’t want to fly high just to say hello to a MiG-25, MiG-23, F-4, or J-8B.

I dont think HMD would save it once a eurocanard gets close. The raptors only hope is BVR, and they will struggle there as the MBDA Meteor is better than amraam

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Meteors at close range would be a problem however if the raptor some how mange to evade those meteors and get into a dog fight it can win against them

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Meteor vs Aim 120D LMAO

I’ve never used a missile to cause people to do things last year.
I’ve used my presence to cause them to do things, because having missiles but not firing them is also psychological pressure on the enemy.

If I want an enemy to do what I want, I usually just back off and they’ll turn around and lose advantage that way.

I’ve also never seen an R-27ER retaliation. I heard about them, I’ve done it once in sim with the Yak-141 where I launched then quickly throttle 0 and airbrake on.
I however never saw anyone else do this, partly because it’s such a niche use case.
The situation needs to be just right, and most of the time that situation never arises for anyone.

Especially when multipathing is strong and was started being used due to F-14A and F-4J/S/FGR2/FG1.

People focus too much on stats while I never do.
In air sim, people love flying high.

Maybe but an F22 with HMD and AIM9x for sure has better chances than one without and 9Ms

Assuming we get meteors and gaijin doesn’t butcher them lol

Depends on the missiles we get. Winning a dogfight without hmd even with 9Xs against and EFT with hmd and Iris t should be quite a challenge

and?

F35A is known to have comparable sustained turn rate with F16s IRL (which means its pretty close to most eurocanards) (also due to the significantly larger wing area F35C likely has a higher sustained turn rate, but this is hard to know due to slightly more weight + would need a gunpod)

where AOA matters is lower speed and significantly delaying stall

but your point about 9Gs being the limit is absurd, because that is about the same as almost every other western high tier plane due to that being about the most a pilot can take, in game all structural G limits are multiplied by 1.5

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Hopefully AIM-260 enters service before 5th gen are added in game so that F-22 gets it if newer F-22 is added

You can’t apply pressure that way, because if your missiles aren’t good enough, firing them or not firing them doesn’t create any pressure at all.
I know that in SIM it’s very hard to dodge missiles, so I think your argument is valid within your own context.

its also assuming that meteor pulls more than amraam for close range, which there arent any sources for
and their is some evidence against given loadouts with both meteor and amraam having been seen

doubtful

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Is that the rafale one?
If it is then why don’t you give the full score?
IIRC in WVR it was 6-1 in which raptor winning 6 and rafale winning 1 times

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or mention that the rafale started on the f22s six

I did hear about that and if i am not mistaken it was also carrying fuel tanks though i could not find any concreate source about it

Also could you provide the video or where did you get the image from since that really does not look like the rafale one

Depending on the performance of the new IR missiles you might not need to fire meteors in close range. If gaijin keeps up sharing every weapon between all EFTs you could theoretically run 4 meteors, 3 amraams and 3 Iris t to cover every range perfectly and the Rafale still has the MICA for close range

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and?

the F22 still has 9x for close range (which in game is better than IRST)
along with the newer F22 upgrades including 360 IRST coverage, so it will be able to launch a 9x on someone on its 6 without needing track mem or something like that

Dogfights with 5th gen are gonna be deadly. Now all that matters is are american players smart enough to survive BVR.

In sim you can’t apply pressure in general because of low visibility, only in a dogfight or radar lock of an aircraft with RWR does pressure apply.
Applying pressure with positioning is primarily an air arcade and air realistic tactic.

Not sure why you’re bringing up sim in an air RB discussion though, as well as getting the tactics wrong.

The hundreds or thousands of players in air RB I’ve pressured using positioning would disagree with you about positioning not applying pressure.
I think for every frag I personally score I end up pressuring 2 - 4 players into dying to a team mate.

I pressured with AIM-9Bs the most, and that was years ago as I quickly discovered they’re better used to score frags than to be used to make someone turn. Especially when range is the limiting factor more than anything else with missiles.