IF gaijin even implements that. And don’t forget that the EFT can do the same with Iris Ts and has the HMD as backup. At the end it all depends on how Gaijin adds all of the new stuff and then we can see who gets second place after the SU57
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EFT can reportedly slave Irs T to MAWS, but that is only if gaijin implements that as its an entierly new feature (it also wouldnt be able to engage a plane like that) the other over the shoulder shots it can make all rely on datalink from a friendly to tell you where the target is, which is also something not implemeted
IRST systems are already implemeted, and given the recent radars with high gimble limits, would be pretty simple for gaijin to give 360 degree coverage
(also the F22 upgrades include HMD along with HMDs being tested in F22 years ago)
What are you talking about? You need pressure to create an advantageous position — if your pressure isn’t enough, then you won’t get an advantageous position.
As we’ve already discussed, the AIM-7 and AIM-9M aren’t capable enough to create pressure for you to gain position. You can’t just say you suddenly appear somewhere and your position is better than theirs from the start.
And I was wrong when I said positioning doesn’t create pressure — it actually does. It’s just a matter of how much, depending on the weapons you bring.
Still all of that depends on if the F22 gets all those things on release since especially the IRST is brand new. Like I said I’m sure everyone will be fighting and crying on the forums and in reports to get second place behind the obvious crown prince of the 5th gen update
true
even though it absolutely should get HMD as there is a much stronger case for that than rafale FR3 getting HMD
Do you chase targets across the map?
Or do you break off to cause them to turn around into a fight that you’re dictating?
Cause the latter causes far, far more pressure than the former ever can.
If you’re relying on missiles to apply pressure, then skilled players will out-play that; and I doubt you’re relying on missiles.
Missile pressure only works against those that don’t know how to defeat them, which while plausible, isn’t guaranteed.
Meanwhile positioning pressure will be effective to varying amounts against all players, even against the skilled.
Missile pressure stopped working on me in 2022, when F-14A was released and I learned the limitations of its missiles so much that I flew the Mirage 3C dying to only 1 F-14A that did a proper bait into a dogfight. And I started watching videos and enemies also show signs of missile pressure not working.
So I stopped using something that doesn’t work on skilled players.
And you use positioning pressure in your fights as well. You might not realize that’s what you’re doing, but with your level of skill, it’s clear you run positioning really well.
100% agree mainly because a lack of HMD would be absolutely devastating in the current top tier environment
Sorry if I annoyed you by adding another message.
An advantageous position can be easily gained when you bait your own teammates and choose the right moment to engage — it’s something you can do with any aircraft.
That’s just how the game is played — it has nothing to do with the capabilities of the aircraft i;m using.
It having 360 irst isn’t anything special, especially if it’s not actually implemented yet.
I’m more interesting in if it’s irsts can laze for ground bombs
Oh no, I’m not annoyed in the slightest.
I appreciate your perspectives, even if the missile one stopped working for me years ago.
You’re still using it, and I assume it’s still somewhat working for you still because of that.
you say that
but passive 360 detection is a pretty unique feature
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No? Su-57 has 360 irst coverage for sure, and I think f-35 has full irst coverage as well but not 100 percent sure for that (might be confusing it for ir based maws)
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iirc SU 57 doesnt have 360 IRST but 360 radar
and even then thats iffy because that is counting MAWS radars which are not optimized for detecting aircraft
The ldircm turret also functions as irst according to its brochure (101 ks b is its irst, and is the module that’s mentioned as “similar function”). And it has 2 of these turrets, and one dedicated irst
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I think thats a bad translation
and it means its countermeasures for missiles with IR seekers
That’s one function that is blinding of missiles , it says right there it’s similar in function to 101-ks b, which is the su-57 irst mounted in the nose. It says functions similar to the irst + blinding of missiles.
Other translators like yandex also say this
Here 101-ks b
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huh
still feels a bit odd though
In reality, I don’t use my missile-performance advantage to gain good positioning in matches (because the US doesn’t have any).
In a 16 vs 16 battle, the number of players itself is a very effective weapon — no one can watch every direction, and no one wants to chase a single target when there are so many enemies around to worry about.
But the weakness becomes obvious when the match turns into a 3 vs 3 or smaller, where there are fewer things to keep track of — and that’s when missiles give the user a clear positional advantage.
I usually survive until the end of the match, so I experience a lot of situations that you think don’t happen very often.
For example, out-rolling an AIM-7 — people don’t usually do that at the start of the match because the chaos of the opening makes them lose focus. But when the match gets down to fewer players, they will do it.
Are you not aware of the entire reason the footage was released in the first place?
Did you and I not talk about this already?