i understand what you meaning but i think its more like or to move all the IR only type aircart away from the radar missiles or to move the mig25pd upper
but ig what you saing i would probbly be unfiar for the mirage 3/5
So you would make the Mirages pointless to play to make the Kfir easier to play?
Does the kfir even beat the j35xs in a 1 vs 1? Doesnt feel like it would at slow speeds where doritos always end up…
The 10.7 mirage should be dropped to 10.3 anyway.
J7D, f5s and more are better in every way than kfir…sitting at BR 10.7. Theres no reason for it to be at 11.0 -looking at global stats other than silver earnt per game
Still glad theyy are move them up. Playing with 10,3 and higher still give me them a lot. Gladly on AB i have also some :D
We lost, we got one, they 3. I wish you can see replay, one of them was so cool. Like newbie whoes just come :) Sharp sights ;)
I don’t play the Mirages so can’t comment but if they’re worse than the Kfir canard (I assume they are) then they could do with a decrease probably, equally if the BR’s were extended massively this would probably help an awful lot of this stuff go away.
- This isn’t how any of this works but 2. Yes.
So the Kfir refuses to go slow and wins?
You are using undertiered aircraft as reasons for downtiering aircraft
3E, maybe? 3C, no. And even if 3E drops, Kfir would still make them pointless to play if it exists right on top of them
NF-5A → 11.3
J-7D → 11.0
Long overdue changes.
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😂
What makes it better than the F-5E?
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Its simply better. It’s lighter with more thrust.
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Both should be 11.3 currently.
J35 XS wins. Ita close but still… So the FM you talk of being great… isnt
Meenwhile French F5 to 11.3 😂 when it only has FM with blind J band RWR… squadron F5 is already at 11.3? J7E, jak viggen etc.
Mig21 bis is better than J7D already at 11.0 so bis to.11.3?
Bad take after bad take…
Why?
Because, even though you’re incorrect, you think it loses to a single jet? This means the FM is bad? Boy, wait until you hear about every other plane in the game!
It’s a better F-5E and the F-5E is already undertiered, why wouldn’t it go up? It should at least be 11.0
21bis isn’t better.
10.3 XS wins, go see for yourself with your friends if you think different…
So what does tbe kfir do.that makes it good at 11.0? When its not the FM…not missiles… leaves the bomb😐
French F5 is blind to j band- this ties the F5s hands in game. Squadron F5 is my best KD jet in game, so now has to go 11.7 as its alot better than frenchy version?
Mig 21 bis is so much better?
You never explained why, so I don’t think anyone, would have a reason that the Kifir Canard would be worse.
This is not really true, Pl-5B are stil more deadly, it weighs a ton less, turns more than all the other MiG-21s that aren’t J-7E.
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From the littke testing i did with XS/ kfir. Xs Turns faster, easier to get nose on target, doesnt have the umcontrolable rudder… slower kfir gets the easier the XS wins.
J7d might turn better at slow speed but hows that going to help the flying airbrake …when it takes so.much lomger to accelerate than the BIS?
J7D is great just not on BIS level
PL5s are so overrated BTW. They are good but still are One popped like any other missile
It has a higher turn rate at all speeds
When not used correctly
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Explain how?
It’s compression as I already said. It’s strictly better than the earlier Mirages. It can’t be the same BRs.
That’s unfortunate because it still needs to go up. NF-5A regardless of anything you or anyone else says needs to be 11.0 currently as minimum its a F-5E equivalent. They need to go to at least 11.3 long term though because they are massive roadblocks to every 10.0-11.0 aircraft as none of these aircraft can compete with them.
Yes… decompression. Other things will go up to allow for it. Even if decompression doesn’t happen, these jets would still be good enough to survive with their supremely good FM and soft characteristics such as IR signature.
Explain how?
So simply don’t get slow with the J35 when flying the Kfir? Play energy?
J-7D has better missiles for BnZ attacks and turns better for dogfights… so where exactly is the 21bis better?
So they get 1 popped like R-60M, but also have 4x the range, have a 2 second burn time (shortest of pretty much any IR missile) so they don’t get seen/detected, and have supremely strong acceleration/top speed AND still gets good 30g agility, but somehow these are overrated?
Still ignoring the question. What makes the kfir deserve the 11.0? You can boom and zoom the XS the same way a f104 could…bout it.
BIS power >
Acceleration is massive when you lose so much energy when you turn…
Lots of times iv been vs a BIS in a J7D and the BIS doesnt stick the fight and just leaves the J7D behind.
BIS in uptier vs phantoms etc is great. R60s all aspect and ignore flares of many uptiered jets make it an ez time at all BRs. Used to hate r60s but theres alot of sneaky angles that work great. 6 missiles over the 4 too. The radar missile is also useful.
The J7Ds missiles are better at dunking at range on unaware enemys and from close range vs noobs as they just flare and dont pull…
All mig21 / J7 BRs are good IMO. They can all.go up but at the same time if decompression ever comes