[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

good but
kfir canard 11.0 → 10.7
mig25pd 11.0 → 11.3 min

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Kfir canard really does need to go down no doubt, 10.7 is probably a good incremental step if it still struggles go further.

Separately GR7 for arcade for some reason is still 13.0 way way way over tiered imo, amending it down to at least 12.7 seems the minimum if not all the way down to the same BR as the RB rating.

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Spitfire mk22 6.3- currently sits at same BR as mk24 for no apparent reason

Ki200. Give airspawn or 7.7/ 8.0. Same BR as Mig15 BIS isnt much fun

Both GB phantoms - 11.7 or change one and have 12.0/ 11.7 versions

Tornado GR1 and GR4 need lower BRs. Bombs shouldnt be yeeting BRs of buses with 2 x 9m

Edit MB i wasnt ment to reply to you…

Fine and agreed, GB phantoms feel like both tech tree ones should go down, currently the ratings suggest these are as good as the F4S/J when having far inferior missiles, the F4JUk can stay where it is provided it gets updated with a post Falkland’s war loadout which is the entire reason that plane exists.

The GR1 and GR4 Tonkas again also easy candidates to go down 11.3 and say 12.0 respectively.

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I think the mig25pd is too overpower because at 11.0 it is the fastest plane in game!!! and have radar guided missile and you cant know when the mig25pd fire at you with the radar guided missile at that same br we have the kfir canard that has only 2 aim 9g aginst that monster(mig25pd) its nothing
so my seggestion is:
mig25pd 11.0 → >11.3
or
kfir canard 11.0 → 10.7

Why exactly would the massively improved Kfir over the base Mirage 3/5 platform, be at the same BR as said platforms?

Same question to you

Both would be great
The mig25 makes the games so zzzz. Hopefully its just a flash in the pan

i understand what you meaning but i think its more like or to move all the IR only type aircart away from the radar missiles or to move the mig25pd upper
but ig what you saing i would probbly be unfiar for the mirage 3/5

So you would make the Mirages pointless to play to make the Kfir easier to play?

Does the kfir even beat the j35xs in a 1 vs 1? Doesnt feel like it would at slow speeds where doritos always end up…

The 10.7 mirage should be dropped to 10.3 anyway.

J7D, f5s and more are better in every way than kfir…sitting at BR 10.7. Theres no reason for it to be at 11.0 -looking at global stats other than silver earnt per game


Still glad theyy are move them up. Playing with 10,3 and higher still give me them a lot. Gladly on AB i have also some :D
We lost, we got one, they 3. I wish you can see replay, one of them was so cool. Like newbie whoes just come :) Sharp sights ;)

I don’t play the Mirages so can’t comment but if they’re worse than the Kfir canard (I assume they are) then they could do with a decrease probably, equally if the BR’s were extended massively this would probably help an awful lot of this stuff go away.

  1. This isn’t how any of this works but 2. Yes.

So the Kfir refuses to go slow and wins?

You are using undertiered aircraft as reasons for downtiering aircraft

3E, maybe? 3C, no. And even if 3E drops, Kfir would still make them pointless to play if it exists right on top of them

NF-5A → 11.3
J-7D → 11.0

Long overdue changes.

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😂

What makes it better than the F-5E?

  1. Its simply better. It’s lighter with more thrust.

  2. Both should be 11.3 currently.

J35 XS wins. Ita close but still… So the FM you talk of being great… isnt

Meenwhile French F5 to 11.3 😂 when it only has FM with blind J band RWR… squadron F5 is already at 11.3? J7E, jak viggen etc.

Mig21 bis is better than J7D already at 11.0 so bis to.11.3?

Bad take after bad take…

Why?

Because, even though you’re incorrect, you think it loses to a single jet? This means the FM is bad? Boy, wait until you hear about every other plane in the game!

It’s a better F-5E and the F-5E is already undertiered, why wouldn’t it go up? It should at least be 11.0

21bis isn’t better.