[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

  1. Its simply better. It’s lighter with more thrust.

  2. Both should be 11.3 currently.

J35 XS wins. Ita close but still… So the FM you talk of being great… isnt

Meenwhile French F5 to 11.3 😂 when it only has FM with blind J band RWR… squadron F5 is already at 11.3? J7E, jak viggen etc.

Mig21 bis is better than J7D already at 11.0 so bis to.11.3?

Bad take after bad take…

Why?

Because, even though you’re incorrect, you think it loses to a single jet? This means the FM is bad? Boy, wait until you hear about every other plane in the game!

It’s a better F-5E and the F-5E is already undertiered, why wouldn’t it go up? It should at least be 11.0

21bis isn’t better.

10.3 XS wins, go see for yourself with your friends if you think different…

So what does tbe kfir do.that makes it good at 11.0? When its not the FM…not missiles… leaves the bomb😐

French F5 is blind to j band- this ties the F5s hands in game. Squadron F5 is my best KD jet in game, so now has to go 11.7 as its alot better than frenchy version?

Mig 21 bis is so much better?

You never explained why, so I don’t think anyone, would have a reason that the Kifir Canard would be worse.

This is not really true, Pl-5B are stil more deadly, it weighs a ton less, turns more than all the other MiG-21s that aren’t J-7E.

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From the littke testing i did with XS/ kfir. Xs Turns faster, easier to get nose on target, doesnt have the umcontrolable rudder… slower kfir gets the easier the XS wins.

J7d might turn better at slow speed but hows that going to help the flying airbrake …when it takes so.much lomger to accelerate than the BIS?
J7D is great just not on BIS level

PL5s are so overrated BTW. They are good but still are One popped like any other missile

It has a higher turn rate at all speeds

When not used correctly

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Explain how?

It’s compression as I already said. It’s strictly better than the earlier Mirages. It can’t be the same BRs.

That’s unfortunate because it still needs to go up. NF-5A regardless of anything you or anyone else says needs to be 11.0 currently as minimum its a F-5E equivalent. They need to go to at least 11.3 long term though because they are massive roadblocks to every 10.0-11.0 aircraft as none of these aircraft can compete with them.

Yes… decompression. Other things will go up to allow for it. Even if decompression doesn’t happen, these jets would still be good enough to survive with their supremely good FM and soft characteristics such as IR signature.

Explain how?

So simply don’t get slow with the J35 when flying the Kfir? Play energy?

J-7D has better missiles for BnZ attacks and turns better for dogfights… so where exactly is the 21bis better?

So they get 1 popped like R-60M, but also have 4x the range, have a 2 second burn time (shortest of pretty much any IR missile) so they don’t get seen/detected, and have supremely strong acceleration/top speed AND still gets good 30g agility, but somehow these are overrated?

Still ignoring the question. What makes the kfir deserve the 11.0? You can boom and zoom the XS the same way a f104 could…bout it.

BIS power >
Acceleration is massive when you lose so much energy when you turn…
Lots of times iv been vs a BIS in a J7D and the BIS doesnt stick the fight and just leaves the J7D behind.

BIS in uptier vs phantoms etc is great. R60s all aspect and ignore flares of many uptiered jets make it an ez time at all BRs. Used to hate r60s but theres alot of sneaky angles that work great. 6 missiles over the 4 too. The radar missile is also useful.

The J7Ds missiles are better at dunking at range on unaware enemys and from close range vs noobs as they just flare and dont pull…

All mig21 / J7 BRs are good IMO. They can all.go up but at the same time if decompression ever comes

No, I told you. BR compression. It’s strictly better then earlier mirages. Putting Kfir down means those have to go down, those going down means subsonic flareless jets suffer, more.

No? You can energy trap it.

Missiles>>>

R-60s do not ignore flares.

PL-5B is quite literally STRICTLY better than R-60.

The community and myself disagree with you.

@Yak_Norris1 do you think f14b is worse than f15a?

you know the mig25 with radar missile fight against them

what makes the kfir canard 11.0?
like the speed? maybe dorito wings? or mybe even the artment?
what makes it 11.0?
for me its pretty good plane but i played less 1000 games with him maybe 300 so i still a “noob”

F4c has exactly no counterplay to an r40td

I do agree with you
Because I also have a friend who mains one nation

MiG-25 does not fight subsonics without flares

Absolutly nothing.
No redeeming quality

Faster, better FMs, better missiles all exist at same or even lower BRs.

Kfir gets slapped by j35xs/ anything really. Has no RWR vs ruski missile spam- Which is just salt in the wound.

Its the worst experience in the game bar none that iv played …and uv gotta pay ££££ for it

Could easily be at 10.3 and still.not be the best at the BR…

5.7 Jumbo is the 75mm gun, and it abysmally lackluster against 90% of the enemies it goes against, the 75 jumbo could easily go down to 5.0 while the 76 jumbo goes to 5.7

This is just untrue.

It has much better flight performance, better missiles, more CMs, but it only has 2 missiles.