[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

Thanks to the crewless turret which you expose only the barrel when you engage or return fire, for maps that allows one to hide their hull, the AGS is busted. Ammunition feels a little weak for sure but you can take your time to aim since most enemy will take an even longer time to aim for your barrel which has a very small hitbox. IPM1 feels harder to play since you cannot trade fire with the enemy as the armor is dogwater, each hits taken means losing crews if it doesn’t just exploded, where AGS can take infinite number of hits to the turret and all it had to do is sit and repair, crews take zero damage when taking hits to the turret, except HE but it’s unlikely if you keep moving.

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So not just your images are AI slop, your text is obviously AI generated too. Why can’t you think for yourself? It would make your points more legitimate, however incorrect they still are.

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I’m just not a nativ speaker, so i translate with AI

Russia’s best penning round doesn’t even have as much pen as those rounds allegedly do?

Brimstones are too unbalanced, and no nation has analogues at the moment.

Still waiting for my T80 Black Eagle, T90M with APS, LIGHT TANKS FOR TOPTIER (which NATO nations seem to have NO PROBLEM getting!)

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The 2S38 is literally a prototype too — it exists in only one or two units, and even those aren’t equipped the way it appears in War Thunder. Yet it’s already in the game, fully functional, with all its advanced systems modeled and performing far above anything comparable at its BR.

Meanwhile, vehicles like the Puma — which do exist in active service and have documented programmable airburst ammunition (ABM) — are still missing that feature. Why? Because Gaijin waits until a Russian equivalent exists before implementing it, “for balance reasons.”

So clearly, the “we can’t add it because it’s just a prototype” or “we don’t have documentation” excuse doesn’t apply evenly. When it’s Russian tech, prototypes are added right away — but when it’s NATO tech, it suddenly becomes a question of “balance” or “lack of data.”

The AGM-114L Hellfire and Spike-ER2 are both fire-and-forget, millimetre-wave or dual-mode guided missiles with similar range and precision.
The JAGM (Joint Air-to-Ground Missile) is literally the U.S. successor to the Hellfire family and has almost the same capability set as Brimstone.

So claiming “no nation has analogues” isn’t accurate — they just haven’t been added yet for “balance reasons.”
If Brimstone is considered “too unbalanced,” then logically LMUR and Vikhr should have been limited as wel but those went in immediately.

What’s wrong with R-77-1s?

APFSDS that negates any armour advantage that Russian tanks have will be bad, because do you want an 11.7 T-80BVM?

This isn’t even an excuse considering the amount of both armed and unarmed prototype planes and tanks in every tree.

Full power Brimestones would be very unbalanced.

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So mica EM doesn’t exist…

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this is a standard applied to some equipment, but curiously was not applied to others, such as KH-38MT or adding dual pylons to aircraft that cant use them IRL

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Newsflash, WT had unhistorical things implemented into the game for years now.

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Most NATO nations don’t have a light tank from 11.7 to 12.7, so I’d say its a global issue rather than a USSR-only issue. One of the highest light tanks is the VT-5, which isn’t NATO. This isn’t a Western vs Eastern issue, this is just an issue altogether.

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What’s wrong with the R-77-1? The AIM-120B, AIM-120C5, and MICA are from around 1996, while the R-77-1 entered service in 2015, that’s nearly a 20-year gap in development.

So comparing them directly makes no sense they’re not from the same generation.

That argument doesn’t make sense — balancing shouldn’t mean artificially holding back other nations’ tech just to protect one vehicle’s BR.

If new APFSDS rounds like DM73 or M829A4 make older tanks easier to penetrate, that’s a natural part of progression, the same way Russia got 3BM60, Relikt ERA, and LMUR without worrying about balance for NATO.

If the T-80BVM can’t handle those rounds at 12.7, then it should move down, that’s how BR balancing is supposed to work.
You don’t nerf or delay realistic ammunition just to keep one nation’s lineup comfortable.

In short: balance should adjust the BR, not the technology.

Exactly, just like LMUR, Vikhr, or even the KH-38MT, those are all incredibly strong, high-precision missiles with huge range and lethality, yet somehow they’re not a problem because they belong to the “right” nation.

When Russia gets overperforming or prototype weapons, it’s called “content” or “flavor.”
When the other Nations finally asks for something equivalent — like Brimstone or AGM-114L suddenly it’s “unbalanced.”

That’s not balance, that’s a double standard. Either powerful modern weapons are fine for everyone, or they shouldn’t be in the game at all — you can’t justify one side’s advantage by calling the other’s “too strong.”

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Almost everything 11.3

Oh you’re One of those that thinks date of introduction is somehow a relevant factor

Funny how you don’t mention that the MICA EM Is Better than the R77-1 despite being 20 years older
(Actually its the best missile in the game)

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100% agree

it was not the question

It doesn’t matter
What differences does It make when R-77-1 was introduced when it’s still worse than a missile 20 years older than it?

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Date of introduction means nothing to balance. They are also not even the best missile in WT.

Yes, and I’m saying moving Russian tanks down will make for worse gameplay because now they either club lower BR tanks, or have any advantage negated by higher BR ones.

Full power Brimestones are nowhere even close to any of those.

That wasn’t the point I only mentioned the R-77-1 to show that on the Russian side, it’s never a problem to introduce new or modern tech when needed.
But for every other nation, the same kind of additions are blocked with excuses like “balance reasons” or “lack of data.”

That’s exactly the point, Brimstone would simply be the next logical step in weapon progression.
But that step isn’t being taken, because Russia doesn’t have an equivalent yet.

Whenever Russia gets something new like LMUR, Vikhr, or KH-38MT it’s added immediately, even without counterparts.
But when a other Nation is supposed to move forward with its own next-gen system, suddenly it’s "too unbalanced” or “needs more testing.”

So it’s not about balance, it’s about keeping both sides artificially equal, even if that means holding back Western tech until Russia catches up.

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We are in for a long wait then !!!

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Yo, i just lost a game where my team was obliterated to oblivion in 2 minutes in AIR RB, and bored about this situation i spend 2 minutes looking at the stadistics

My team : 11.7 (5) 12.0 (3) 12.3 (3) 12.7 (2)
Their team : 11.7 (0) 12.0 (5) 12.3 (4) 12.7 (4)

Is this a joke? Because is not funny, maybe is some halloween event? This is pathetic at some next level. Honestly i know already balance is nonexist but at least i though both teams has the same BR.