[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

Now without any agenda, bias, accusations and or manipulation sugguested,! IF a match can be over in under 6 minutes, enemy team having 6 lvl 100s ((all high scorers / K/Ds)) against a team of noobs and 2 lvl 100s.!! For 7 players to have been aboe to spawn 3+ more times in under that time !!

Something is seriously wrong in this game!

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heard enough nerf F14 again :(

Its fine just buff the rafale again that will make up for it

The problem in ground isn’t so much the skill discrepancy, its more about how many times player are willing to or even can spawn in. The game places no requirements on the player to do anything at all, you can spawn in and decide you don’t like the map and leave without ever doing anything.

Games are usually just decided by whatever team has more players left after a couple of minutes, not neccesarily by whatever team has more skilled players, but obviously that does play a role in terms of your teams 1DL’s being weeded out sooner. The main game mode is 3cp and you have to control space on the map to win, not just get kills. So when one team is down 5 players its really hard to control multiple caps.

We can talk about solutions all day, 1 spawn only ground modes, EC, etc. but gaijin doesn’t seem to want to mess with que times or something so we are stuck with this.

True, but when a player can spawn 4 times and die within 2 minutes… kinda makes the point!

Too often its completely 1 sided and im pretty certain its deliberate.! Especially when you’ve had a run of wins! How is it possible for me for example to maintain a number of matches with 8-10 kills consistently then allllll of a sudden 1… 2… 0… then around 11pm back up to 10?? ((Its happening right now!!))

Im convinced there are bots in the game, Im convinced Match making strategically creates matches to win or lose to side orientated (biased). Not to mention other interresting facts that occur such as bounces, minimal damage, 3 shots to kill, bombs “hit” and miraculously players in every nook and cranny you can find coincidentally where other players are going.! Yet - on the opposite end of the spectrum - ignored by players, planes whilst in open tops, 1 shot kill every volley. THEN the miraculous AA out of nowhere miles away kills you.!

And I’m sick to death of being uptiered from 4.7 - 5.7 going up against tigers all the darn time using a pea shooter.! 88% now and counting.! Meaning – nearly every match all my tanks are at a disadvatage and I have to work twice as hard to kill tanks in all my matches in order to get the fragg!
Its not right, not fair and completely farcical to even bother having BR ranges now!

it is what it is I suppose.! But something is seriously suspicious with the game and it isnt me!

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i dont think they use bots but
i am 6.0 kv220 after 6 years i know where to shot tiger1, and i know how to defence my tank. 1 game everything is normal, they shot me i shot they.
1 battle after i cant kill tiger from side. there is million place to shot but my shot go on %0.00001 place. imposible. i know where i shot. from side of tiger1, only you have %1 area to ricochet. i find that place? not only this, in same game enemy make %0.00001 imposible shot on me and i die.
1 battle before i am the first, i am 6.0 in 7.0 game, we win or lost but i am the first. 1 game later i am 15th or 16th with 0 kills.
my kv220 k/d ratio 1.89 but all my battles 6.7 or 7.0br. how i cant fight that i cant pen or cant run on to enemy side. if i can run to side of enemy, i cant pen.
today i see another kv220 his k/d ratio was 9. wtf wtf. how he is 9 and i am 1.89 and he had zero kills in that battle. how? why?
what is the problem with us. why every german or american have -1.0br (fulldowntier) but i cant see +0.3 battles.

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Regarding the scout drones and their ability to spot most of the opponent team :

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Q7WMp5weXqVt

Can fit in this thread since this unexpected behavior kind of creates an imbalance imo

They dont nerf, they just move the vehicle up in BR until it becomes useless…

Mouse Droid for example!!

Are the Alpha Jets just bad aircraft, especially when stock? I’m trying to play the German one and it’s just abysmal compared to some 8.3s.

They’re so slow, and the gun is so terrible, in addition to the fact that their energy retention is garbage if you aren’t fully spaded. You can’t even bomb in it because you’re so slow.

Ok, im gonna stop you their before you get rinsed. The guns bad? probably one of the best cannons put on a plane if its the german one as it has the 27mm. What might be stumping you is thats its too accurate, Its just doesnt have the shotgun like effect of other cannons so requires very precises aiming.

Other than that i cant tell you, as all ive heard are good things about the alpha jet especially after the engine buffs. So maybe its just a bad stock grind as i can tell you the differance between a sea harrier stock and spaded is like going from a 7.3 to a 10.0 jet so maybe give it some time.

They out accelerate sabres and some migs so play the energy advantage and chase them down if they try to run after energy trapping, Youll catch them before they out speed you.

I am sorry but whole GJ team should sit to ANY AB/RB 11,0-12BR tanks and try enjoy 10-20 battles per day to see, how far it is from the good game.
Blaming BR is just waste of time but % of the wallhackers, aimboters, and a lot another strange things here happening every single game.
Normal man, with undamaged brain cant sustain trying to enjoy the “fun” there for long.
Do we really must support and play this? It is just slaughterhouse and it start on BR 1.

Also talk about how game is laggy, behave like alpha after last Levi update is another time wasting.
But why, GJ, why?

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gaijin know whats going on, they are happy.
but what if we stop playing, what will they gona do?
i know, but cant stat this, germans never nerfed, never uptiered, who overtake germans always had br change towards up. they are whales, they are spent money, best nation in game as a moneymaker.
who talk about this will be faced by shaming “skill issue”

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All jets suck stock and you know this, spaded it is a high performer for 8.7