As you say, vehicles equipped with F&F missiles or VT fuses would be greatly affected by a reduction in BR. However, the Stormer HVM does not have these missiles, so reducing its BR would not have much of an impact.
You get IRCCM missiles, and a good IRCCM as well. The other one doesn’t get that, Israeli one’s MIM72G also have nearly double the lock range.
Thank you, I understand now
Would love a Rapier that can spawn other launchers like the real system. And again Gaijin should have done this with weaker SAMs before they prematurely shot their load with the most modern air defence system in the world IRIS-T SLM.
We should have gone Rapier, Hawk, SA-3 etc. to try out the multiple emplacement system and not going straight to top tier.

would love a rapier with shrapnel filled explosion, not apcr (its better than it was on launch but still not good)
I was playing the F-4S (attempting to use it as a fighter) last night and faced nothing but F-14’s, MiG-29’s, F-18’s Ect ect. I play mostly Air Sim and can remember the good days of facing MiG 21’s/23’s. I don’t want to be the most op thing on the battlefield……but also I don’t want to be a flying XP piñata (which I felt like). 11.7 would put it in the realm of aircraft it originally flew against. Nothing with a just a Search/PD radar should fly in the TWS, All Aspect missile meta in my opinion. Excluding the F-16 of course it can hold its own……or I could just be coping.
i think that the f4s and j variants should get the aim9ls
or just pls move it down by 0.3 tier its not good against new fighters
Can we just add a few blank BRs next time? This literally takes no consideration, just move every single thing away
e.g. 9.7 10.0
9.7=>9.7 10.0=>10.3 All above +0.3
to make a blank 10.0.
I’ve been thinking that a blank BR at around 8.3, and another at 9.7 would be good because of the large jump in performance between 1st/2nd/3rd gen jets.
By making mig23ml/mlds 11.7 and saving them from 13.0 up tier, leaving f4Ss at 12.0 and entering full up tier matches and feeding them to 13.0s, f*** your Russian bias and your mind…We are trying to play against the enemy’s radar, which breaks with the slightest turning movement, and the aim-7fs, which go ridiculously low even with the most perfect lock, and the su27 su33 and amraams, which have 10+ missiles, Come on, I’ve passed 13.0 (even though 90% of the games are up tier), at best we are playing against teams that are many times stronger than f4, like full 12.7 f18, those who don’t see this imbalance, f… your blind eye
I forgot to mention that all opponents that F4S faces, regardless of whether they are high tier or low tier, have all aspect missiles. If gaijin’s beloved uber super god made Russian vehicles had any of these imbalances(1, one) they would “balance” them instantly.
The F-4S trades IR missiles for being able to carry 6 good SARH missiles with a good radar. The Mig-23s are all worse than it is too.
PZH2000 should get its spall liners like real life and unironically be moved to 10.7.
Really what i want to see is the end of 1 tank lineup’s entering 10.7+ BR GRB. 9 out of 10 matches I play 3/4 of my team come in with 1 premium tank and maybe a jet. There needs to be a minimum lineup requirement other than 1 premium tank. At this point winning is just luck of the draw. You get matched up and only 1 team has a stacked lineup team while the other side is 1 premium tank chumps destined to lose.
Gaijin just messed up my ~ 7.0 French lineup.
WAS using…
- Lorraine 40t as a fast medium to cap
- amx-50 (TOA 100)
- amx M4
- amx-50 Foch
With Lorraine and TOA going up to 7.7 I now need to use…
- amx-13 (overtiered at 7.0)
- m26 (not fitting well with a 7.3 lineup
Thanks for screwing up my lineup Gaijin!
You smoking crack? EJ KAI is the f4s but without hms or the agile eagle kit (i dont know the specific name and i dont care to know) but gets 9ls and maybe a slightly better radar. The 7fs are fantastic and if you move them down to 11.7 i dont think a single 10.7 deserves to see that. Give it 9l and move it up to 12.3 where it belongs if you want but its fine at 12.0, its one of the best performing 12.0s infact.
And the mig 23s should have never been moved down, they are still fantastic and riddled with bugs that make it better. Community Bug Reporting System
I do understand that facing planes with r27er, aim120s and so on isnt exactly fair but neither is 10.7 planes seeing something with hms, 7fs and good flight performance.
So if the reason for jumping the Lorraine 40t to 7.7 is because of… performance?
I’m wondering when they are bumping up the BR of the M44. No way it should be sitting at 4.0
- Can 1-tap anything up to even 5.7
- Survivability is much greater than one would think with big crew and AP shots not doing much damage (I’ve hit them with 57mm and 75mm shots and they quickly return fire)
- Fast for an spg
- superior optics (4x-8x) for the BR [ Panther D by contrast only has (1.9x-3.5x)
I get killed by these things every battle, even when playing BR 5+
The m44 definitely needs to be moved up… 4.7 minimum
The F-4S is the strongest 12.0 jet, please stop complaining about it.
Probably because its a worse jet than the 12.0s
Q-5A and Q-5 early have BRs which are too high for them.
Imagine you have an aircraft with no AAM, no countermeasures at all and no ammunition for ground targets when you are stock and you have to fight against su25, mig21 and a10s. Please lower them to the battle ratings where they should belong to