Superior only on “paper”.
Funny how people either complain about low tiers or top tier but absolutely no one complains about ranks 4-6
Simple reasons. i) BR compression ii) SPO15 iii) Notch gate
Because Ranks 3-5 is pretty balanced, with 6 being completely forgotten about, so no one cares about it.
Elaborate?
The J-11A is considerably worse than any 13.7 plane, but it might be too good for 13.3 (debateable, but this shows BR compression).
It is identical to the Su-27/J-11 apart from it having MAWS, which means it still has SPO-15 and N001 radar. Neither of which belong on a 13.7 plane.
I’m not sure what they mean by notch gate.
Have you… tried comparing it to any 13.3s?
The game made all radar weapons vulnerable to notching. R77 does not guarantee kill efficiency for it’s too easy to notch, while spo15 does not provide any notching capability without actually seeing the missile
Yes it’s better than su34 in flight performance and hmd, and jf17 for speed, msl load and hmd, BUT COMPRESSION. Compare it to any 13.7s and,… 13.3 would be a choice
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id say yak 1 yak 1B yak 3 yak-9U could all go up yak 9 aswell
I don’t like the idea of a Su-27 with R-77s being 13.3
The Su-34 is at 13.3 and is better in a few ways (More ARH missiles, much better radar, and a much better RWR), but worse in others (worse flight performance, no MAWS, and no HMD).
I don’t think it would be too much for 13.3, but I’d prefer decompression. This still doesn’t change the fact that it is by far the worst 13.7 plane.
MiG-29SMT, better radar and RWR in exchange for load out. JF17, lacks HMD but has better missile and radar and rwr. Also has less missiles. Still, pretty equal.
Better RWR and Radar in exchange for:
Half the missiles, 1/3rd the Flight model…
Which isn’t that unfair. You at least don’t have to use SPO15 and N001. It is worse, sure, but not more so than J11A to F15C for example.
Yeah, it is. They aren’t equivalent. I play the Su-27 into 14.0 games constantly and do fine even with SPO-15 and thats with R27ER as my strongest missile.
Consider how fun it would be for 12.3 to face a Su27 with R77
Same said with MiG 29SMT? What about 12.0s facing AMRAAM spam? 12.3 you’ve got F20 already, or stuff like JH7 with good enough RWR. SPO 15 sucks, and in itself is a limitation and there is no argument about it being way worse than F15C/J11B less so than MiG29SMT to J11A. Yes, SPO15 do ‘fine’ but ‘fine’ is no where near enough when you’ve happened to get no BVR capabilities and one of the worst missiles. MAWS is nice but it wastes half your CMs in one go.
29SMT is a far weaker aircraft. The FM loses to anything at 12.3 except for the phantoms maybe. The missile count is also low.
Not as bad as 12.3s facing flanker w/ r77s. Especially when the 13.0s with amraams are all handicapped in some way.
You’re not required to tie MAW to CM
And then it is useless.
Anything can trigger it, but wait, if u don’t tie it, what’s the difference?
Which is simply not true. Except from F20, nothing else beats it in terms of FM, obviously F16s but no radar guided missiles absolutely destroys them.
Which the J11A is handicapped as well. worse avionics than anything but itself (or J11/Su27) beyond 12.3. By far a worse radar compared to MiG29SMT at least. I would have said otherwise if Tornado was still here, but it isn’t anymore.
TIL having an RWR for IR missiles is useless
(or, that you cant just slave it to CM when you want to, and have it off when you don’t…)