Shenyang to 9.0
So all the sub sonic need to cope because the Supersonic F-104 A and C do not have CM but have speed, and Vulcan will be fine at 10 This will stop tryhards abusing it. Remember, many jets, even at 9.7, don’t have CM, and even some are subsonic.
They can nerf again flying characteristics because F-104s are like a pencil with small wings, seriously doubt they turn so well, not to mention not losing energy.
The F-104A could go to 9.7, but there are worse vehicles you could face at 9.3. They would be DOA at 10.0 because they begin to lose their speed advantage, and gun kills with them are difficult.
They turn very poorly, and they lose tons of energy. They’re just terrible airframes that often aren’t even the fastest planes at their BR.
in fairness I usually play 4.0 to 6.7 range as thats my preference, but yes – 86% fully uptiered over 1k matches. I posted the results on the old forum and the thread was bead and burried with no answers. Since then - nothing has changed, You only have to look at Unknowns stats to see similar.
Depending on nation / Vehicle - The BR will most likely be uptiered +1 every time. Its the way the Tech trees have been changed. So in essence - nearly every match I play Im always against higher BR vehicles whether that be 8+ Players or so.
definitely because they still haven’t unlocked the derby modification yet. who would carry python 3 (no IRCCM) instead of a modified python 4 with ARH seeker and extended range and higher G overload than python 3?
So Milan should be 9.3 because have no CM and not even Napalm bombs
So Harrier GR.1 should go 8.3 no CM and no napalm bomb + missile work at 0.70 km at best + is sub-sonic
F-104s and Mig-19 with Q-5s are cancer at 9.3 making all 8.7 horrible to play killing people with impunity for Stats .
They put down BR for this Jets only to make all premium 8.7 frustrating to play so they can sell new ones yes BR chance was implemented this time with realise of 11+BR new jets
what? even if you use the exaggerated thing you’re talking about. this would put it at 9.0 or 9.3, not 8.3
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Did you even read the chat, or do you like to cut in and respond to sarcasm ?
you dont.
So what’s your point? Are you looking for recognition or something similar, or are you trying to defend the F-104 at the current BR, because I don’t get what you’re trying to prove here?
I am open to putting the F-104A at 9.7, I just think there are better 9.3s that should go up before it, and there are 9.7s that aren’t any better than that.
We just need decompression.
I was just saying that even with the previous context, the gr.1 would never be as low as 8.3, it was a bad example wedged between 2 good examples
I agree T-2 Early is at 9.7 no CM sure Aim Js but not have the speed of F-104s
This same Mig 21S R-13 (300)
- Migs 21 and J7s overperforming the flying characteristics are unrealistic compared to other Delta Wings
I was sarcastic with Gr.1 comment but still GR.1 should go down in BR right now have nothing going for it only bombing that actually you will able to bomb once in 10 battles because of Napalm in Fighters.
SRAAMs prevent it, and no, I don’t need to be educated on the downsides of SRAAMs. All of their downsides stop existing when you start shooting at MiG-15s and F-86Fs
Lmao and what you doing now 9.7 is not preventing you to shout at F-86 because they are BR .8.7 - 9 BR and for the Migs-17 is 8.7 Mig-19 is 9.3 this same with F-104s so because SRAAM Harrier can go down but jets that pass 2200 km can play vs Mig-15s
Gaijin Logic
Not to mention Q-5s have CM and napalm except early that have Napalm and no CM
Senyang F-5 is already 9.3 not to mention Yak-38 with 4x R-60s , So you think Harrier G.R 1 at 9.3 will be so hard to kill?
It means you are a rarity versus an every game issue.
brilliant work. i collected data on over 200 not in so much detail. numbers do not lie
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Yesterday, my friend has match with 12.0 tank while playing only 9.3 tank. Is this a bug or supposed to be that. His squad included only 2 players of 9.3 tank
This is the replay of the game
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Fix the tornado. Its a bus but it wasnt tbis bad IRL. I read somewhere that apparently tornado pilots have been quoted saying it could turn with a F14 for 2- 3 turns and would beat a phantom. Both not happening on war thunder…
Also GB phantoms being same BR as F4S?
Why have 2 identical phantoms on same tree? Do something with one of them to lower its BR to 11.3, same as the F4E.
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