Least they can take a hit and have armour that has the potential to stop a round (granted not always)
?? The CR2/Lerclerc/M1 are nowhere near bad enough to justify NEVER facing any strv122? Especially the abrams…
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In exchange for god awful stats in most departments that you want to have good games like gun handling and reverse speed lol
CR2 is the worst top tier tank in the game
Leclerc has no armour, any shot kills it
M1 has a huge turret ring its an easy kill with any tank.
Yes if Gaijin fix the catalogue of issues with these tanks then they could be top tier material…
yeah that is true, it isnt bad enough to never face strv122 tho
same as above
doesnt matter when it has good stats elsewhere
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Most times I get hit, it’s typically a bad shot, and almost always my fuel explodes, killing the whole tanks.
I’ve also noticed a lovely new thing with all T-series.
For some reason a lot of the APFSDS rounds bounce of the floor of the tank instead of pierce through it and like it used to. Leading to even more ammo detonations. And most hits kill or full disable the tank, as a breech shot mostly kills the gun at kill all the turret crew, and usually clips the engine.
Or there’s the driver’s hatch everyone seems to be able to hit a perfect pixel on it and kill the crew all in one shot.
Not to mention the fixed reload which are slower than anyone else in game.
I was killed by a VT-1 missile from a Roland in the front plate of my CR2 is penetrated right the way through the tank. The CR2 is at the level of a Leopard 2A4/5 it was outclassed by the 2A5 we are now on the 2A7 and the CR2 L27A1 cannot penetrate that tank reliably.
There is a gulf in capabilities between these 2 machines.
Leclerc just needs some fixes as does the M1
T-series lower plate is the shot.
The worst top tier tank is the Ariete hands down
Yes, but not enough to say they should be more than 1.0 apart
I’m aware
Yes, but as I was saying, even poor shots kill them often. The only time your saved is if someone hits every ERA panel. But the T-80U can be far easier killed by a Leo-2a6 or 2a7
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They can still fight the Leopards and kill them reliably it shouldn’t be the same br as the leopard but it can still fight it without problems. It should only receive a lower br so it has a lower spawn cost.
Trade off for easier to one shot kill and reload. To me Leopards and STRV122Bs 13.0, could also let some of us non CAS players from top tier CAS which will then be 13.7.
Leclerc goes 12.3 with buff, along ZTZ99A, Abrams and Challengers. 12.7 belongs to the less good leopards (STRV122A and 2A6/A5) and T80BVM/T90M. 13.0 for insane leopards.
Oh yeah, also means very weak tanks are staying 12.0 like VT4 and Ariete.
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Shoutout to the Q-5A and L being 10.3 and 10.7 without missiles in sim.
Only 0.3/0.7 lower than the Su-22s, and the same BR as a nearly identical plane that has Magic-1s too. The F-4E is also at 10.7, and it can base bomb just as good.
What’s with this terrible BR balancing?
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Want to know something even better?
The Q-5L is 11.0 in arcade and the Q-5A is 10.0 despite being near identical.
Next decompression WHEN
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Now we have BR separation when will mig27 get br reduction
Move every single high overload Fox-3 capable jet up to 14.0 (13.7 for F-14A IRIAF and F-14B) and increase the max BR to 14.3 with the current 14.0 aircraft.
Change up/downtier for matchmaking from +/- 1.0 to 0.3.
BR Improvements (above taken into account):
DISCLAIMER: These are all my opinion and are all the aircraft I could think of from the top of my head. Reply with improvements and post will be edited in due course. Of course, new top tier additions will go straight to the 14.3 (and beyond) pile, depending on how much more capable they are compared to current top tier aircraft. Don’t expect much to change unless major things technologically like stealth (in fighters), thrust vectoring and/or electronic warfare/jamming are modelled & implemented with said jet(s).
13.7
- F-14A IRIAF
- F-14B
- AV-8B Plus
- Su-27
- Su-33
- Mirage 2000C-S4/S5
- Mirage 4000
- MiG-29 (USSR; include R-73 and keep R-60M, for historical accuracy)
- MiG-29G
14.0
- JAS39C
- F-16C/AM
- F-15C/J/Baz (basically all F-15C-like without the SpaceX engines…)
- Su-34
- F-16C
- MiG-29SMT (pending jet flight model and R-77 overall drag improvements…)
14.3
- All Eurofighters
- Rafale
- F-15E/Ra’am
- Su-27SM
- F-16V (not an actual jet in War Thunder yet but it’s essentially the F-16C with a single F-15E engine (yes, really))