…what
EXCUSE ME ACTUALLY WHAT
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The list is quite frankly nonsensical. They have the french panther, but not the german one, and their BR recommendations are even wilder.
Like, Strv m/42 EH to 3.3? What? Yeah, it can be very good when used right, but its cannon has anemic penetration and against any sort of 75mm guns its armor is downright useless.
Hell, they even recommended the Sherman I composite go to 4.7.
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The Panther Dauphiné is a very good tank. I´m a pretty mediocre player and have been able to get an average of a 5.0 K/D with it. T-28E is also a bit of a beast, and the m/42 EH is pretty nice if you know what you’re doing with it.
| TSR % | VG1 % | VG2 % | Reload % | HA1 % | HA2 % | HA3 % | TA1 % | TA2 % | TA3 % | Pen % | Crew % | Mass % | HP % | speed % | Visibility % | HG1 % | HG2 % | PWR % |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0.8371808385 | 0.9873241318 | 0.6267837529 | 0.8785222704 | 1.514420953 | 1.499093418 | 1.433889275 | 1.976430593 | 1.247989797 | 1.428651029 | 0.8444857966 | 1.191389079 | 1.547707651 | 1.317581685 | 0.8224174996 | 1.302316114 | 1.158795183 | 1.15850878 | 0.8354970103 |
As you can see from its stats (this measure is a percent figure, the stats of other AFVs are compiled, a line of best fit is drawn, and these percentages express (the panthers stats / the value of the line of best fit at br=6.0)), where it excels, it excels quite a lot, where it suffers, it suffers quite modestly. 7.3 is the calculated value where the sum of the residuals for each stat is minimized as each stat is weighted by the elasticity between it and K/D, win%, SL/M, and RP/M.
I haven’t spaded any German Panther other than the Panther D, so they’re not included in my dataset for final recommendations, only as part of the trendline. It will spit out an equivalent recommendation for an equivalent Panther in the German tree. Had you made fewer assumptions instead of getting indignant, you could’ve asked that and found that out. Relative to the Dauphiné, the Panther D suffers with turret slew rate, which makes my model spit out only a 6.3 for it. Idk why on earth you started acting like an overemotional child and assumed I would be treating French vehicles capriciously.
Will Gaijin ever reconsider changing 1.0 BR MM spread to something lower ?
As it stands, 1.0 BR spread is a legacy system from a decade ago when WT had much less active players, so they needed to make sure queue times aren’t long.
But now, nothing really stops them to at least try 0.7 BR spread to see what happens.
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I do know that. Hell, the EH is one of my favorite tanks! However, that does not mean they need to go up. The EH’s gun has extremely anemic penetration, especially against shermans/T-34s/KV-1s.
The T-28E may have a half-decent gun, but it is a massive target and its armor is quite frankly paper.
7.3 for the panthers is quite frankly insane. That is .3 above the Tiger IIH, a vehicle which the Panther is absolutely inferior to.
what
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I have to assume this is on some sort of 20.0 br scale with full decompression bc otherwise these placements makes no sense
My Hot Take:
Leave top tier BR the same except for the Pantsir.
Make the Pantsir the first BR 13.0 land Vehicle in GRB
It may help both matchmaking and put the Pantsir at a more understandable BR for its overall power.
Literally makes zero sense.
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It would make sure Pantsir players only go against top tier. I think it makes lots of sense. In what world is the Pantsir a BR 12.0 when compared against other BR 12.0 SPAA.
Edit: It’s a hot take. I know many people won’t agree with it. It wouldn’t be a hot take if they did.
In what world is the 2A7 a BR 12.0 when compared to Arietes/Merkavas ?
Leaving everything at 12.0 and only moving Pantsir up to 13.0 is ludicrous.
If they fixed the bug reports 12.0 for those would make sense. They don’t need to re-rank them. Just fix them.
Even when fixed those wouldn’t be 12.0 worthy, especially Ariete.
Both actually would. Both of those tanks are incredibly inaccurately powered in game.
You have no clue what you’re talking about.
I have family that are literally Merkava Tankers. Check yourself.
Also read all the bug reports on those vehicles.
I had, Ariete would still be miles behind 2A7s.
If so that should be reassessed after fixing the bugs not before.