[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

No, 2A7s should move to 13.0 with Pantsir.
Arietes should be left at 12.0 until they’re fixed.

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Ok. I’m willing to concede my point. That makes sense. It should only face top tier vehicles.

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Of course, if 13.0 is introduced, all meta vehicles should move up there to free some space for worse ones. That’s decompression.

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Fair provided the 13.0 vehicles that are introduced (other than the Pantsir and 2A7) aren’t better than the current 12.0 meta vehicles. If they are equivalent move the meta up.
I’ll be honest though. If they ever fully fix the Merkava it would need to go up to 13.0 as well(along with the other previously mentioned vehicles)

No new vehicles would be introduced at that point.
The best 12.0s would just move up to 13.0 with worse 12.0s going to 12.7 or 12.3.
With that, better 11.7s could go to 12.0 while leaving others as is.

Honestly, I don’t think you would need to go that far to fix it. I think there is a simpler way. However, The decompression in Air RB worked well excluding a few errors in the BR’s for some Aircraft.

Air RB is still massively compressed, just not at 9.3-10.3 anymore (where they targetted)

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F-15C/JM/Baz M, alongside Su-27SM not being 14.0 is a disservice to the single engine’d 13.7s… and the J-11A.

Also the fact 9.3 air is still compressed is annoying.
People can’t fly out their early cold war jets without the threat of Mig-19, T-2, etc.

The J-10A is superior to the Su-27SM

14.3 is a better option

Because if you could test drive vehicles that you can’t research yet you might decide not to get them, or some players might be satisfied with just the test flight and not get it anyway. (which could hurt their sales)

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Su-27SM has more weapons, is faster, dogfights better, and has more fuel time available than the J-10A.

I have yet to see the new FMs for the flankers but I doubt they got THAT much better.

The J-10A is lighter and more agile, has better ARHs and a better Radar as well as having on-par IR missiles. It’s PL-12s are better suited for the BVR meta as well.

The J-10A has one engine that produces less thrust than a single Su-27SM engine on an airframe whose empty weight is still above half the weight of Su-27SM’s.
Su-27SM having a higher TWR as well as a higher energy retention brings it with the F-15s.
Now, radar can’t do narrow scan, that’s the one drawback to Su-27SM.

Fair. I’m not going to pretend that I am great at this game. However it has been my favorite and most played game for the past two years. I do feel like pretty much every aircraft I have played in the 8.0-9.3 range performs similarly when I play it (in my opinion, not a statement of fact). Even the with the Draken at 9.7 I don’t find myself upset with the lack of countermeasures at that BR.

The moment that I stopped pretending this game was realistic was the same moment I started to enjoy it significantly more.

Considering I have neither fighter and cannot speak from experience I will leave it here

Can we use different colours, quite hard to tell :D.
Also disagree with premium OP, cause it is after all biased, as premiums have no ‘stock’ period. meaning u don’t actually have to go through periods of say no APFSDS or thermals. This would mean the OP isn’t really what drives it, but stock grind. This applies for both air and ground, for a 10.0 vehicle, ZTZ96A say, I had an underwhelming K/D before I got APFSDS and thermals, but it quickly recovered after that, this however still means the K/D sits way behind my ZTZ96A(P) which I acquired just two days before the ZTZ96A.

Before EFT and Rafale, J-10A was comparable to the Gripen and Blk 10 F-16 in dogfight performance, which were the best in this regard.
I still don’t think Su-27SM after the buff has reached this level yet.

Neither can J10.

But even post buff I still feel like it is a brick in comparison to J10 in higher speeds. This was sort of more from me just doing immediate notch but also in dog fights where the only advantage would be R73s pulling off insane kills.