[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

Good news to see that most craft with fox-3 missiles got their BR shot upwards. Which really helps the lives of a lot of 11.0 to 11.7 aircraft in terms of balance.

However, USA, Sweden, and Israel are very noticeable as needing the same treatment still. Namely for the F-16C, F-15C MSIP II, AV-8B plus, JAS39C, Baz Meshupar, and Barak II.

This obviously should be changed, bringing them in line with the rest of the Fox-3 mounting craft, as well as other top tier Gripen, F-15, F-16, and harrier variants in terms of BR.

Beyond that, something that I have been questioning for a while is why the alpha jets in game cannot access IR missiles.

Idk what you’re on about, they uptiered all of these jets too.

Did it IRL

Next time i have issues like that of course I will do that. For sure.

@cold13
The version of the Alpha Jet that had IR missiles is not currently in-game.

As of the time of writing that comment, it hadn’t taken affect yet. As of writing this replyit still has not changed.


(USA tech tree as it appears to me as I write this)

They are 13.7 in all modes. Your game is displaying wrong.

I just figured out my goof. Your right.

You are not alone. I played all through Brit tanks and top tier suffer compared to almost every other nation. They are slow and stay slow even after the upgrades. Theres little benefit in grinding out a tank when even the maxed version is terrible. You definitely have to change your playstyle. Its doable but its not a top performing nation for a reason. Britian definitely needs some love and a maybe revamp to the nations BR ratings.

F-5C has no speed to catch its current enemies at all; missiles are dogsh*t, and even when you sneak up on people, when they simply turn without noticing your missile, they dodge them. Its main ability was dogfighting capabilities, but as of now that is mostly negated due to the things it faces having very similar capabilities, not even considering the radar missiles it faces. Moreover, other F-5 variants either being the same BR or simply just one bracket high is pretty laughable.

Players talk to Gaijin about realism, Gaijin talks to players about game balance.
Players talk to Gaijin about game balance, Gaijin talks to players about mechanics.
Players talk to Gaijin about mechanics, Gaijin talks to players about Economy.
Players talk to Gaijin about Economy, Gaijin says they DON’T understand:(

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Lmao. The alpha jet is not better than what the chinese, americans etc. get. Cope

The f5c suffers now? Good.

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I noticed how the HMS Renown is 7.0 despite having none of the survivability or firepower of the other 7.0 noob mobiles such as Alaska or the Kronstadt (which is a fictional pile of trash that should be entirely deleted from the game anyway. They literally broke their own rules just to keep the bias alive…).

Gaijin does a poor job at balancing and idk why they don’t increase the max br of naval battles.

Is it me that think J-11, Su-27 should be at 13.0, F-15A ,F-16A series should be at 12.7 and J-11A, Su-27SM should be at 13.3?

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USS Flagstaff is at 3.7 with only one Bofors plus 2x double .50 cal turrets. Yeah it’s fast but that honestly doesn’t help it that much because of how hard it is to control.

I mean, F-5E is same BR with better missiles and significantly better FM

Yup, just you. That is a one way ticket to compression hell for everyone.

Yeah, that’s an awful idea that only serves to make USA more pampered.

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how about.keep.everything the same and raise f15c,f16c to 14.0

Ah, I agree. I feel battle rating Su-27 Flanker-B and J-11 at 13.0 BR it’s high

Now Belgium F-16A Block 15 12.7 BR. but F-16A Block 10 from USAF might decrease to 12.3 because mounted AIM-9J & AIM-9L

For F-15A Baz, I want gajin remove AIM-9M & reverse radar to AN/APG-63 (pre-PSP). and reduce BR to 12.7

F-15A (USAF) increase BR to 13.3 but could add AIM-120A