[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

While worse, due to compression this will be too powerful for 9.0.

T-80B has superior armour, slightly better round.
T-72B has less of weakspot than ZTZ-96A has.

just saw the BR changes that are coming up, the Fox is definitely moving to where it should be(i think 8.0 would be fine as well), and saw other people arguing about the mig-15 being moved down, is the mig-15 being moved down really that bad?(was at 8.7 being moved to 8.3)

As one of MiG-15bis/MiG-17 main, they are really bad changes because 7.7s such as F-84G and Ouragan already can’t stands for MiG-15bis.

The worst thing is Gaijin mistake the MiG-15bis ISH for what is essentially the original MiG-15 even ISH is just MiG-15bis with tiny drags.

and has CCIP for rockets, and can carry 2x 500kg bombs instead of the regular 100kgs.
The Bis Ish should be at the same BR as the Mig-15Bis.

anyone else try the A-10’s GAU avenger on a destroyer in dover strait only to find it doesn’t do much in the way of damage? the ability to cause flooding is way too rare in war thunder naval.

So, mig15bis and plenty of other migs and sabres got moved to 8.3 and 8.7, so why does the premium Japanese sabre remain at 9.0 having to face all aspect heatseekers? .7 BR difference between F30 and F40, because of two almost useless missiles? are you serious?
Why is the Shenyang F5 the same BR as the Mig19 and mig21f13?
Oh, and the Prem Vautour is still 9.0. This game is becoming more and more of a joke tbh.

Its a huge slap in the face to those who spent stupid amounts of money on these planes.

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This game is a huge slap in the face you when grind TT vehicles and not buy premiums.

When you are stock at almost every br, you are easily 0.3 to 0.7 br’s behind.
At the higher br’s - this issue becomes more severe.

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Yes should be placed at 6.0 because is not Mig-19 + already fight 8.7s like the other BS super sonic F-104 and Mig-19

Gaijin balance how to make older 8.7 premium useless so you buy new ones , ppl like you make the game great keep it up Gaijin wait for ppl like you to comment here for Balance

The bias against Russia is too strong, Ka52 needs hermes missile.

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I’ve been playing your game since 2014. I’ve been trying to play games, especially with jet planes, for a while. I’m trying to play games with the f4s plane, but in every game I come across planes from different generations such as f15, f14, f16, mig29. As you know, all the equipment of these aircraft is very different from the previous generation aircraft. For example, if we go by F14, the F54A missile is fired from a very long distance and shoots down my plane before it can enter the battlefield.I have no choice but to become a bot target for another user. I experience this in 3 out of every 5 battles I play in the game, without exception. I am very disturbed that there is such an injustice in your game, in which I spent both time and money. Maybe 1.0 br doesn’t make much of a difference for tanks, but even 0.3 br for planes means a very different technology upgrade.Although we have discussed this issue a lot in the forum, there has been no change. This issue needs to be corrected. For air battles, a ± 0.3 br correction would be very important. It will be fun for everyone to see similar planes fight each other.

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I’m trying to play games with the f4s plane, but in every game I come across planes from different generations such as f15, f14, f16, mig29. As you know, all the equipment of these aircraft is very different from the previous generation aircraft. For example, if we go by F14, the F54A missile is fired from a very long distance and shoots down my plane before it can enter the battlefield.I have no choice but to become a bot target for another user. I experience this in 3 out of every 5 battles I play in the game, without exception. I am very disturbed that there is such an injustice in your game, in which I spent both time and money. Maybe 1.0 br doesn’t make much of a difference for tanks, but even 0.3 br for planes means a very different technology upgrade.Although we have discussed this issue a lot in the forum, there has been no change. This issue needs to be corrected. For air battles, a ± 0.3 br correction would be very important. It will be fun for everyone to see similar planes fight each other.

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Same here, f4 can do nothing against f16’s and mig29’s and freaking mirage.
F4S is such a waste of money for me

It’s definitely one of the better top tier premiums though. Imagine if you bought the F-104 TAF xD

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thankyou gaijin for oversaturating a whole 8.0-10.0 br range with pay to win premiums so 1 death leaving german and american give no chance to smaller techtrees to play this game competitively . no wonder your cash cow projects like enlisted fail right after launch because you ppl have no motivation to deliver your customers

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How battle results count towards pass challenges:
I played two naval battles with the Japanese destroyer Hatsuzuki III era 4.7 and I did not receive a single point towards the challenge 0/10000
Same situation with bombs to challenge 3 players with a bomb no less than 999kg, I drop 4x1000 from Do217E-2, kill 2 and get nothing…

are you ok? enlisted is doing fine its just not as popular as war thunder

Hello! I was told this is the place to talk about general matchmaking. @EddieVanHalo this is the place we were eventually told to talk about your topic.
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Anyway, I am interested in how many people immediately leave the game (zero death leaving, not 1-death), when they get maps they hate or full uptiers?

Is this something people should do more often? it would probably go a long way toward convincing Gaijin to not use those maps if they have to scramble to find enough players when half of them just leave after matchmaking. But more importantly: you just don’t have to play it yourself. Or to maybe finally change matchmaking to +/- 0.7 BR

How many people do this like me? And I think more people should.

Crew lock is not a big deal at all if you have 3 or 4 nations with lineups you enjoy in them.

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I don’t do it any differently, especially with all the little shit Maps in the Hightier, that maked for Lowtier under 6.0.

I think even fewer people are interested in the time block for the crew.
Even if I only have one tank because Gaijin blocks the crew, I only go into the next round with one tank.
If I lose the tank even though things are going well, shit happens, but it’s still better than just crappy cards or absurd matchaking.

You don’t have different lineups you enjoy in 3 or 4 different nations? It only crew locks one country

(Also, are you the “Sister_Fister” from Age of Empires who had to change their name and made it “Sister_Respecter” lol? Or different person?)

I do.