[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

[Mytho-GR1]

So should the F15A

The F15J is a F15 in airframe alone not it avionics so in game the are the same but with the F15J being slightly heavily

[GenOfGames07]

Its has much better missiles though

[Mytho-GR1]

They aint that much better

Their turning circle is slightly better with slightly more range

Their SARHs are exactly the same

[Normandy_Corsair]

They need to simply add CMs to the ones that dont have them at the BR and then make them all around 10.3

[Normandy_Corsair]

@SanguineSerpent

So, the F-104G for Italy at 10.3 might make sense, but it could also be pretty powerful against 9.3s, which most don’t have any flares, are barely supersonic

Also I would counter this by saying there are already aircraft at even 9.7 that cause this issue… T-2K comes to mind.

[SanguineSerpent]

T-2 bleeds speed much more than F-104s, but I still agree that it’s also annoying as heck to fight.

[Normandy_Corsair]

That doesn’t matter. Your point was, if im inferring correctly, the plane can just run and isnt killable, that applies to both jets.

[SanguineSerpent]

Yes, you are correct, but F-104s loses less energy evading aim-9bs than the T-2, so F-104s are much more annoying to run after than T-2s, but both can easily run away anyway.

[NoodleCup31]

Haven’t played for a few weeks.
What happened here lmao

[Jarms]

Swedish RB BR changes:

• L-62 ANTI II: 2.7 to 3.0. This thing is basically just a Swedish Crusader AA Mk. I, I see no reason it shouldn’t go up, especially considering the Lvtdgb m/40 also shares that BR.
• SAV 20.12.48: 3.7 to 4.0. This vehicle is a monster. Not much else to be said really.

Soviet RB BR changes:

• SU-122: 2.7 to 3.0. This, and the two vehicles below are incredibly powerful. Especially against new players. You see entire squads of SU-122, M4A3 (105), and StuH 42 G when playing these BR’s.

US RB BR changes:

• M4A3 (105): 3.0 to 3.3.

German RB BR changes:

• StuH 42 G: 3.0 to 3.3.

French RB BR changes:

• AMD.35 (SA35): 1.7 to 1.3. This thing is trash. It’s basically a side-grade to the 1.0 AMD 35.
• M4A3 (105): 3.0 to 3.3. Same reasons as above mentioned SU-122, StuH 42 G, and US M4A3 (105).

Italian RB BR changes:

• M15/42: 2.7 to 2.3. It’s really not a massive jump from the M13/40 (II), M13/40 (III), or M14/41. Very small jump in penetration, small jump in top speed and power-to-weight, and better hull armour. That’s pretty much it.

[SlowHandClap]

AGM-65D hitting the cabin of a pantsir and it somehow only crits it and kills one crewmember.

RussianBias™

[Ion_492]

I think bombs are bugged, I’ve seen other clips of bombs not killing tanks right beside them.

Either way, that’s not Russian bias, its Gaijin spaghetti code.

[BlockbusterVHS]

The fact a MiG-15 can play against a F-104, and a MiG-17 can play against A-10 all aspect AIM-9L’s, with no counter measures. Move up to 9.3, and now you’re going against planes with 4xAIM-9L’s, still with no counter measures, is the funniest joke, I think I’ve ever experienced in this game. There’s obviously a huge disconnect the devs have with the community since this has been going on for so long. The entire 8.0-10.0 air BR’s need to be completely reworked, this is not a un-backed complaint from skill issue, this is actually complete and utter unbalancing and unplayable due to neglect. I don’t think i need to mention the Super Saber since it’s probably been mentioned and ignored over and over again. I’m just really curious how the stats are looking for Italy’s new MiG-15, and 19.

[MyLittleVasya]

cl13))))))

[BlockbusterVHS]

entire BR is a joke, don’t even get rockets to make artificial counter measures.

[SanguineSerpent]

[BlockbusterVHS]

xD G.91 YS forgot about that yeah at 9.7 with 2x AIM-9B’s and no counter measures. Hey at least Gaijin completely forgot 10.7 exists and only a couple of planes have it so you shouldn’t see too many up tiers. But RIP against everything at 10.0, and 10.3 that give you no real chance to even compete.

Edit: Just noticed you can play against the F-4F in this hahahahaha

[tubaboss]

I just had a mishap recently when I got into a 2.7 battle rating match with a Bf 109 K. Maybe it was glitch I don’t know, but it threw me off.

[ShiroooYuki]

Any Japanese aircraft with 30mms need to go down. The only reason why they went up in the first place is the previously overperforming HEF-T round that had 920m/s muzzle velocity but now that they’re fixed to 700 and 770 for the Ho-155 and Type 5, respectively, the BRs need to go back down again

[O_HOgameplay]

@BlueForce_Lily

Statement: ALL missile-equipped SPAAs should get +0.7 br to give room for ASFs

A typical 10.3 SPAA like the ROLAND can be effective against aircrafts for about 5-6 km. Staying near the spawn(~2km away from cap), it is capable of destorying a 10.3 CAS plane (typical payload of unguided bombs/rockets with CCIP) well before the plane imposes any threat to allied tanks near the cap. Meanwhile, an ASF at 10.3 generally relies on rear-aspect IR missiles(effective range of around 3km), with radar-SARH missile combination effective only against high-altitude targets. This makes a 400+ SP ASF less effective than your 100 SP SPAA in destroying CAS planes, and the ASF itself is also threatened by the AA due to its inferior effective combat range. Rising the BR of all missile SPAAs should significantly degrade their performance – AAs should be effective in either avenging fallen ground teammates, or deter the pilot to use his payload in a less effective manner.
In other words, the br of SPAA should not be evaluated by how effective it is in eliminating ALL air threats at the same BR, but rather the HIGHLY EFFECTIVE ONES(bombing, rocketing, helis…) only. Long-range (and thus less time efficient)) strikes outside the scope of SPAAs should be countered by ASFs.
This is exactly how low rank battles work – any pilot gunning ground targets would be punished by SPAAs quickly, while those bombing or rocketing tanks usually die to ASFs. Similar balance should be applied to higher rank battles as well, instead of SAMs blowing everyone off the sky

Or you can just learn to play with tanks and play your beloved CAS in AIR mode. You know, playing AIRcraft in AIR mode and leave GROUND MODE for GROUND VEHICLES.

@MotorolaCRO

Let me guess, 292 is unfair even at 12.7 ?

It is clearly OP!! Look at how much pen it has!4!4! And we know only the pen matters in this game!
You know, why don’t they raise the Conqueror to 11.7! It has more pen than DM33!!!

@Italy_Suffers

While I agree there needs to be some changes, there are already a lot of CAS aircraft that can’t perform CAS because of things like the Pantsir/Strela/etc

Good. Now make this the case for all of them.

@SlowHandClap

AGM-65D hitting the cabin of a pantsir and it somehow only crits it and kills one crewmember.

RussianBias™

HEAT has different overpressure mechanics compared to HE. It is a very spaceous vehicle. Nice confirmation bias again.

These robot dildos also are bugged for years now, and you can find countless of videos when they do absoltely nothing to the enemy.

@Ion_Protogen

I think bombs are bugged, I’ve seen other clips of bombs not killing tanks right beside them.

Either way, that’s not Russian bias, its Gaijin spaghetti code.

You can say whatever to him, he will climb deeper into his echo chamber.