[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

Guys, any idea how we could fix spawnkilling in air arcade? Not really fun when you spawn and a fighter is sitting right above your spawn at very high altitude, and either you try to climb and kill them, lose all your energy and become food for them, or you try to ignore them and go away and get dive-shot and you can’t do much. Really annoying

The Chi-Nu is utterly painful to play and outlcassed by every single tank at 3.3 in GRB.

It has no redeeming qualities, and should be 3.0.

I’ve been saying this for what feels like an eternity.

Whoever decided to make the J32B, J29F and J29A repair costs to 11,823 SL, 12,652 SL and 13,060 SL respectively should go and see a doctor because these planes are hilariously undertiered and every match having to pay well over 10 grand is just rough for vehicles as underperforming as these.

The J32B needs to be 9.0 ASAP it is abysmal to play at 9.3.

It would easily be the best 9.0, but it’s also no on par with other 9.3 aircraft.

We need decompression, and Gaijin refuses to do that.

Recent BR changes ruined any chance of decompression ever happening. How’s everyone’s hopes on this game?

Already lost any hopes since Harriers comes to game.

I was comparing only Hunter and J35A.
Now if you see the overall picture the situation is very bad.

Also, i made a poll for decompression yesterday, for max BR go to 15.0 in order to make some space for the vehicles below, that includes this BR range because if top tier moves up, it will create some space.
I will tell you that the attendance is very low, i was expecting everyone to vote for decompression and that is not the case with the community it seems. If it had attendance we could tell we’re pushing for it, if people don’t care, why GJ should?

The community is largely apathetic to the idea of BR compression. They don’t notice or care.

They are not apathetic at all to contsantly cry that the vehicles they like (currently play ) are in a bad spot or nerf X and Y because i can’t manage against it.
When you are given an option to prove a point , poll in that case, you go in and vote it. If it manages some hundrends or thousands votes , then we can talk about pushing the idea to GJ.
Venting off in the forums is ok and sure we feel better afterwards because " i told it" , but leads to nowhere.

yeah cause 99% of players only whine about what they perceive as injustices to vehicles they play rather than comment on the big picture.

idk why you tell the rest of this to me because I already told you what I believe, gaijin doesn’t use this forum so we’re all here for entertainment purely

You were proposing a maximum BR of 15.0, where the current is 14.0. That is a massive increase which would not be good for the game.

Do not make such conclusions that players do not want decompression, from your poll with such dramatic conditions.

1.3 is not a massive increase, it is easily done and would have minimal to no impact on the game’s matchmaking times which is the only thing you could be referring to here

Players do not want decompression. It is evident through interacting with the community.

You and I are not the ones with statistics on queue times. Gaijin is. Not only do they have data on queue times, they also have the statistics on how it affects players.
Many people incorrectly assume that queue times are low across the board. They are not. If you play on less populated servers, at less common times, in less popular modes, at less played BRs, you can and will get long queue times. This is true for a sizeable amount of players, although they are almost never the ones to speak up.
There are many valid reasons Gaijin decompresses by 0.7 most of the time.

You listen to what they say too much.

You are AllNationEnjoyer. But are you AllModeEnjoyer? Do you play on a server with low population like SA? I speak from experience about queue times, and my reasoning follows from there.

Again, my point is it needs decompression. As others you say yes it needs and state your opinion.
Keep using strong words like “dramatic” without really knowing what are you saying. TT to go up 1 BR is not that much , if you have in mind how much space the tiers below need. You have flareless chickens meeting All-aspect constantly . Now they downtiered 21SMT/MF/J7D to be able to meet 9.3s …hell they shouldn’t see below 10,0. But they are too bad to see over 11.0 (essentially themselves upgraded and with all-aspect). Where do you place them?
+1 BR as max BR is nothing big in reality.

MiG-21s should not have been downtiered in the first place. The pre-February balance situation was fine for MiG-21SMT and MiG-21MF,; they were adequate at the BR. Strong engines, countermeasures, and good handling characteristics make them usable even in full uptiers. And J-7D is 10.7, you do not know what you are saying either.
+1 BR is 3 entire brackets. The current situation of the game does not call for such a large change. The more decompression is done, the more thin players are spread over BR brackets. Decompression is final, and cannot be reverted, due to the negative player reaction that would ensue.

People frequently speak of the negatives of the status quo. But what of the positives? Greater variety of possible matches, greater diversity of vehicles in the battle, much lower queue times. War Thunder would be bland without the colourful range of vehicles in each battle.

No such thing exists in the jet game (at least ARB and ASB).
In ARB people are flooded with rank 7 premiums like F-4S, MiG-23ML, Mirage F1C-200 and in SBEC there is F-4E/EJ and F-111, Tornado spam during the event days.

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