So Milan should be 9.3 because have no CM and not even Napalm bombs
So Harrier GR.1 should go 8.3 no CM and no napalm bomb + missile work at 0.70 km at best + is sub-sonic
F-104s and Mig-19 with Q-5s are cancer at 9.3 making all 8.7 horrible to play killing people with impunity for Stats .
They put down BR for this Jets only to make all premium 8.7 frustrating to play so they can sell new ones yes BR chance was implemented this time with realise of 11+BR new jets
what? even if you use the exaggerated thing you’re talking about. this would put it at 9.0 or 9.3, not 8.3
Did you even read the chat, or do you like to cut in and respond to sarcasm ?
you dont.
So what’s your point? Are you looking for recognition or something similar, or are you trying to defend the F-104 at the current BR, because I don’t get what you’re trying to prove here?
I am open to putting the F-104A at 9.7, I just think there are better 9.3s that should go up before it, and there are 9.7s that aren’t any better than that.
We just need decompression.
I was just saying that even with the previous context, the gr.1 would never be as low as 8.3, it was a bad example wedged between 2 good examples
I agree T-2 Early is at 9.7 no CM sure Aim Js but not have the speed of F-104s
This same Mig 21S R-13 (300)
I was sarcastic with Gr.1 comment but still GR.1 should go down in BR right now have nothing going for it only bombing that actually you will able to bomb once in 10 battles because of Napalm in Fighters.
SRAAMs prevent it, and no, I don’t need to be educated on the downsides of SRAAMs. All of their downsides stop existing when you start shooting at MiG-15s and F-86Fs
Lmao and what you doing now 9.7 is not preventing you to shout at F-86 because they are BR .8.7 - 9 BR and for the Migs-17 is 8.7 Mig-19 is 9.3 this same with F-104s so because SRAAM Harrier can go down but jets that pass 2200 km can play vs Mig-15s
Gaijin Logic
Not to mention Q-5s have CM and napalm except early that have Napalm and no CM
Senyang F-5 is already 9.3 not to mention Yak-38 with 4x R-60s , So you think Harrier G.R 1 at 9.3 will be so hard to kill?
It means you are a rarity versus an every game issue.
brilliant work. i collected data on over 200 not in so much detail. numbers do not lie
Yesterday, my friend has match with 12.0 tank while playing only 9.3 tank. Is this a bug or supposed to be that. His squad included only 2 players of 9.3 tank
This is the replay of the game
Replays.rar (15.2 MB)
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Fix the tornado. Its a bus but it wasnt tbis bad IRL. I read somewhere that apparently tornado pilots have been quoted saying it could turn with a F14 for 2- 3 turns and would beat a phantom. Both not happening on war thunder…
Also GB phantoms being same BR as F4S?
Why have 2 identical phantoms on same tree? Do something with one of them to lower its BR to 11.3, same as the F4E.
Make KV2 3.0 in Ground RB. Right now it’s uncompetitive and constantly faces cannons that can easily kill it from the front, combined with it’s 30+ second reload that make all it’s characteristics useless. If it would go to 3.0 it will face in a full downtier players that would need to either flank and get close and shoot from the side, like the US 37mm light tanks, or switch to a specialized shell like HEAT or APCR to shoot it from the front (German/Italian short 75mm or 50mm). This would really make it fun to play and to face. I don’t understand why it should be treated as a forgotten meme tank when the armour could balance out the long reload with a lower battle rating.
Please give strike aircraft at 10.0 and up air spawns like the A-10, SU-25, Tornado, and etc. It would give them a fair change to do stuff in Air Realistic Battles and not get shot down by a AIM-7F or R24 that you couldn’t chaff away or dodge no matter what you do, 6/10 matches I see people get shot down before they get to the base. An air spawn would give these strike aircraft a fair chance to help, please consider it.
Would be too armored for the BR.
The British F-4s trade AIM-7Fs for superior flight performance due to engines.
Skyflash is barely a downgrade as well.
There is no way to reduce the BR of British Phantoms as they had PD radars.
Also @PumaKing247 and @joetato you’re playing healthy popular BRs if you’re getting uptiers often.
Play the rare BRs and you’ll get more downtiers.
The flight performance is negligible at all altitudes
They do not have leading edge slats…so they turn worse
They cannot mount Skyflash to wings unlike the F-4S
They do not have an HMD
Aim7F is a better missile as they dont model seeker inadequacies
as it stands FGR-2 is one of the worst Phantoms, you cannot defend incoming missiles as the airframe is so large and heavy and as mentioned no “Agile Eagle” upgrade It has suffered since the MiG 23 was added to the game and has only been power crept further and further.
Should they go down? No but they should change the 9G for the 9L.
Tornado F.3 is already at the same BR with superior missiles, flight model and avionics