Honestly, whoever thinks bias is a thing, they just have major skill issue.
Not all bias is simple things like “impenetrable tank”
Legacy BR+nobody plays+turnfighters
The J35XS needs to be 10.7. 6 9Js and decent flight performance at 10.3 is just too much, especially considering the BRs of some F-104s.
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21SMT and MF as well.
Seriously that tuning based on how much people fail with the plane has to stop.
You can’t tell XS and SMT/MF have worse capability as a F-5A with AIM-9E or a strike fighter like A-7s, or even F-104Gs and they are on the same level with F-104J that doesn’t even have flares…
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Please please please fix the F-4J(uk) in SIM. Right now it’s 12.0 in SIM. It’s the exact same aircraft as the other UK phantoms but those are 11.3! Actually no, because the 11.3 Phantoms actually have the better RWR! How can a plane that is worse sit at a (much) higher BR?
It’s the same BR as the US F-4J, but the UK one has all the stuff removed that makes the F-4J actually somewhat good (no HMD, no AIM-7F, worse RWR…). So it’s extremely unfair that the UK F-4J sits at the same BR as the US F-4J but it has so much worse gear. At least the UK should get the AIM-9L as compensation (which it did carry in real life!)
At 12.0, with the SIM EC rotations, you are 6/8 days facing at least 12.7 (F/A-18) so it’s literally unplayable. 2/8 days it even faces 13.0 with Fox-3’s!
SAD to pay 60euro for a plane that is unplayable for 6 out of every 8 days…
br system its a complete joke
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When it came out, the R2Y2 was considered a bomber and as such had the appropriate airspawn, allowing it to clown on everything during the early game, that’s why it went up to 8.0, when Gaijin finally removed the airspawn, nobody played it anymore and it just stayed like that.
Thats rly fucked up if true. And kinda unlucky. May i ask what br and which nation you were (mostly) playing? I guess 9.0 or 9.3?
They balance it now is 12 BR with only 2 working missiles that actually are flerable as AIM L and put napalm bombs to Migs so they can bomb and kill you with impunity wird that they sell it for 70 eur and is higher BR that ML not to mention this same happens with Milan so now you are burden for the team trying to bomb + you need to face BR 13s War Thunder for you.
Data is false, you can’t balance skilled players, so the game is unbalanced as help,l vehicle to vehicle huge differences
Yes, but nowadays it is categorized as a fighter and takes off from the airfield.
8.0 has no f. Sense at all
Can anything be done to jap f4aj ? While obviously only second to worst every f4 near its br, constantly being uptiered to f4s is kinda “why play this if f4s exists anyway”… Can it just receive the usable radar missile? (the dogfight one which is essentialy the same thing but no activation timer)
For this missile to work u need a foolish enemy to be facing you in 8km and him not having the radar missiles and also not reacting much to my missile… anything closer and missile wont react in time or wont have the energy to do anything
Actually it maybe played the same way as german f4f just not taking the “unusable” missiles and using the 4 aim9p, but it will just be a worse german f4f (cause the lack of agile eagle pack)
while agreeably not the worst premium it still a shame that it lacks in everything compared to amerikan fantoms at the same br (also the same appiles to not premium f4aj)
F for the harrrier gr1
kfir c10 needs to get a lower br. you put a kfir in 13.0 which almost always gets uptiered to top tier (14.0 or 13.7) and give it only 4 missiles, which also doesnt have IRCCM. the derbys are okay but not very good at that BR. maybe lower it to like 12.7 or just make it not have uptiers or something.
also more merkava armor because the merkava 2D or raam sagol get penned by anything.
Derby is a fox3… uptier problem is the problem of br compression, what u want i br decompression… not fox3 for ppl at 11.7
My proposed list of all F-104 BRs and why I think they should be there. Feedback is welcome.
9.3 - F-104A (US, CN), the base F-104 with 2 Aim-9Bs
9.7 - F-104C (US), it has 2 more Aim-9Bs and it can carry napalm too.
10.0 - F-104G (CN), 4 Aim-9Js, no CMs
10.3 - F-104J (JP), 6 Aim-9Js, no CMs
10.3 - F-104G (ITA), it only has 2 Aim-9Js making it worse than the 10.7s, but it also has CMs
10.7 - F-104G (GER, FR), 4 Aim-9JS and CMs, worse than the F-104S, but better than the rest.
11.0 - F-104S (ITA), it has a more powerful engine and 6 total missiles.
11.3 - F-104S ASA (ITA), It is equivalent to the J-8B, and I can’t see it being OP at this BR. 9Ls are found on other planes here, and so are Aspides.
i know its fox 3 but at the same time its barely works as one.
or atleast from my time playing with it
I have the cf10 but dont play that tree due it being too booring for me for now…
As for my noob experience i think the best way to use them is as all aspect “ir” missile that ppl cant “flare”
Just a new b.r. ceiling for ARB.
Here’s three easy ones you can fix.
Vampire and A28B: currently at 7.7 (A28B) and 8.0 (Vampire), when the Vampire was created back in the early 1940s (before MiG 9, J21s, Yak-15, F-80, F-84, and more), and are slower than all other fighter jets, and are easily outclassed by every jet at 7.0-9.0. The Vampire and A28B should be put at 6.7-7.0 so it can actually fight instead of showing up when the match is already over.
Venom and Sea Venom: the Sea Venom is situated at a proper BR for its performance (7.7), therefore the Venom should be moved from 8.7 down to 7.7, because it is still slower than all their contemporaries from 8.7-9.7, and are constantly fighting missiles, afterburners, and jets that generally outclass it.
OTOMATIC: for the love of all that is holy, the OTOMATIC should not be 11.3, the Strela is somehow superior to the OTOMATIC. Newsflash, OTOMATIC was barely relevant before the introduction of AGM spam from 30km away. How do you expect it to keep up when jets absolutely refuse to come within five kilometres of the battlefield to begin with. Oh, you want it to act like a light tank? You mean with next to zero mags, when year after year, people put in the bug report that the OTOMATIC has more than three magazines for the APFSDS? The OTOMATIC would do far better at 10.7, but I guess that would get in the way of the copy-paste stuff that no one asked for. We wanted balance, not a “major update” that was 90% Copy-Paste.
TLDR: Vampire and A28B (6.7-7.0), Venom and Sea Venom (7.7), OTOMATIC (10.7)