[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

Oh but ofcourse, I didnt say it couldn’t, but RNG dicktates whether theres a kill or not!

If the game is set against you.!! Not a chance - I played 2 matches just now, first 10 kills without any issue, 2nd match 1 kill everything else bounced off into the sunset.!!

You’re set to win or lose.! 14 years and its become rediculously obvious!

Idk how about u guys but this is the word of the month imo xD

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I can’t take ground mode seriously … between the bad maps, the ghost shells/RNG, crew RNG or whatever else RNG, i can’t be bothered. It’s fun to play if you don’t take the game seriously .
Only is Air actually worth it. And destroyers naval up t3, after that it becomes clusterfk as well.

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So in essence - what you are trying to say is - IF Player use a vehicle in such a great way, die very few times because they all play a vehicle (referring to ground rb here). Those said players are penalised by increases in BR of any particular vehicle.?? Not much incentive to play them to a good degree then is it>??

ALSO

aka - do well, and you get again penalised vy being uptiered every single match??

Could that be why after monitoring 1000 matchs for BR variances - I personally was uptiered over 86% to + 1BR?? Is that not considered victimisation because a player is “good” at the game - so attempt to balance the matches by forcing the uptier?

In essence, it seems do well - get penalised for doing it whether progress (as you stated) and or vehicle BR changes to attempt to force vehicles to comply with certain criteria?
Is that why the BT7 F32 for example is a 4.0 with its weaker gun, minimal armor compared to say - the Puma sdk at 3.7?

GJ idea of balance. Hunter F.6 9.7, Harrier Gr3 9.7 , Lighting 9.3 …
That’s who you are gents. How many years now?
And we are here talking about GJ capabilities in balancing.
I didn’t even compare to other nations.
By GJ Hunter F.6 has same capabilities with GR3 Harrier. It doesn’t ,both A-A and A-G…
By GJ Lighting is worse than Hunter…
All you need to know is that comparison.
They are THAT good in balancing.

also the idea that the one nation with the best air launched ATGMs also has the only AA able to reliably intercept them, and gets planes that can carry as many of them as other nations get their own ATGMs


How is this justifiable? Mirage 2000-5Ei with no ground attack capabilities is 12.7 for GRB which is the same as EF-2000, Rafale, F-15E, and Su-30/34?

Gaijin you are killing your game in ground battles aircraft with obscene amounts of FnF missiles are ending and winning the game with in some cases 1 kill a cap and a couple of assists.

They get to spawn in a Su-34 with 6 KH-38 and a Single FAB 3000 glide bomb that guarantees 5+ kills.

It is obscene only one nation is having a good time in ground battles right now.

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U wan too no wai? Biecoz Rossia ees goeeng too muerder tuh beasemnt geu eef teey no make rossia biassed.

Forgive me for asking, but does anyone know why the R2Y2 and its variants are 8.0br when any similar jet has less br?

Here are flight statistics for the R2Y2 8.0, the Me 262 A-1a/Jabo 7.0, the Meteor Mk3 7.3, and the Su-9 7.0.

R2Y2:


Me 262 A-1a/Jabo

Meteor Mk3

Su-9

All twin-engine jets with bomb and fighter capabilities.

Why is R2Y2 8.0? That doesn’t make any sense.

EDIT: Now that I look at the arcade, they all have the same br, but they don’t in realistic battles. What kind of madness is this?

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Honestly, whoever thinks bias is a thing, they just have major skill issue.

Not all bias is simple things like “impenetrable tank”

Legacy BR+nobody plays+turnfighters

The J35XS needs to be 10.7. 6 9Js and decent flight performance at 10.3 is just too much, especially considering the BRs of some F-104s.

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21SMT and MF as well.
Seriously that tuning based on how much people fail with the plane has to stop.
You can’t tell XS and SMT/MF have worse capability as a F-5A with AIM-9E or a strike fighter like A-7s, or even F-104Gs and they are on the same level with F-104J that doesn’t even have flares…

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Please please please fix the F-4J(uk) in SIM. Right now it’s 12.0 in SIM. It’s the exact same aircraft as the other UK phantoms but those are 11.3! Actually no, because the 11.3 Phantoms actually have the better RWR! How can a plane that is worse sit at a (much) higher BR?

It’s the same BR as the US F-4J, but the UK one has all the stuff removed that makes the F-4J actually somewhat good (no HMD, no AIM-7F, worse RWR…). So it’s extremely unfair that the UK F-4J sits at the same BR as the US F-4J but it has so much worse gear. At least the UK should get the AIM-9L as compensation (which it did carry in real life!)

At 12.0, with the SIM EC rotations, you are 6/8 days facing at least 12.7 (F/A-18) so it’s literally unplayable. 2/8 days it even faces 13.0 with Fox-3’s!

SAD to pay 60euro for a plane that is unplayable for 6 out of every 8 days…

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br system its a complete joke

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When it came out, the R2Y2 was considered a bomber and as such had the appropriate airspawn, allowing it to clown on everything during the early game, that’s why it went up to 8.0, when Gaijin finally removed the airspawn, nobody played it anymore and it just stayed like that.

Thats rly fucked up if true. And kinda unlucky. May i ask what br and which nation you were (mostly) playing? I guess 9.0 or 9.3?

They balance it now is 12 BR with only 2 working missiles that actually are flerable as AIM L and put napalm bombs to Migs so they can bomb and kill you with impunity wird that they sell it for 70 eur and is higher BR that ML not to mention this same happens with Milan so now you are burden for the team trying to bomb + you need to face BR 13s War Thunder for you.