All SPAA in War Thunder’s top end can use IR tracking, which RWRs cannot detect.
CAS players are use to not getting RWR warnings cause we haven’t gotten an RWR warning from most players since sometime before 2020.
After the bad weather probability increases, the IR system is not as useful as before, only for helis may work, but for Jets, still using tracking radar, especially for ITO90/TORM1/ADATS
Havent learned already Gaijin is baised to Russia. They never nerf anything Russian only US. Proof shows US constantly the lowest winning percentage at top teir but they do nothing to “balance” it. They add OP vechiles for Russia and even Germay and put them on the same team every match agaisnt the US. They added the Panstir and still no counter to it and or equal from another nation. Anyone going to say skill issue you clearly lack the brain power to comprehend it or are a Russian main that crys in the fourm to get your way.
Thats if you can get the ADATS to lock at all. Have things in radar but never seems to lock or hold a lock.
Panstir is under tiered. How can you possibly say that? So lets keep things how they are with 1 nation getting CAS while everyone else cant cause before you even spawn your locked and being fired at…sure you can dodge them every now and then but that doesnt mean its fine. Should every SPAA get a buff then if you think its fine? Its the most OP SPAA in game by far at any BR.
Uh yeah. I’ve stated multiple times that Gaijin should add better SPAAs for other nations.
Heres the kicker…they wont. Theyll leave it as is and ignore the community as always.
@arty202
According to you, sir Californian, the following nerfed vehicles are all American:
Mig-23s, Mig-21s, Su-27, Mig-29 [all had their flight models nerfed].
T-90M [spall liner nerfed].
Yak-141 [Same BR as the Mig-29 despite being worse].
Ka-50 was nerfed 6 times: S-13s removed, thermals removed, BR increased to 11.0, Vikhrs reduced to 8km range, Vikhr range brought back up to 10km, beam-riding introduced. To name the ones off the top of my head.]
S-13s caused the Spawn Point system for non-guided weapons.
Also according to you, the following OP vehicles are Russian:
F-15A.
P51H5NA.
Wyvern.
F2G-1.
F-100.
F-5E FCU.
For ground battles the following OP CAS are all Russian according to you:
F-16C, F-14B, Tornado, Gripen [all], JH-7A, Mirage 2000, F-16D… weird of you to claim that OP CAS that Pantsir cannot kill is all Russian.
Pantsir is fine where it is. ADATS should be moved to 11.3.
All ten tech trees need new SPAA better than Pantsir.
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Put the crack pipe down saying Panstir is fine. Funny how anything russian gets nerfed it doesnt change its performance…f15a isnt OP by any means.
Ka50 nerf actually made it better especially when they claimed they nerf the atgms
You cant even use anything you listed in grb for cas because of the panstir. Like i stated 1 nation/side gets cas
Good. The Ka-52 was so cancer being able to spawn with S-13s at the start of the match.
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Pantsir doesn’t have the range to destroy any of the CAS I listed.
I should know, I’ve died to zero Pantsirs while flying all of them as CAS.
Hundreds of Pantsir missiles have been launched at me.
There’s a reason I’m not painting a narrative with those facts.
Dude’s making false claims about how Soviet vehicles never get nerfed when they very clearly do.
Panstir doesnt have the range…literally spawned in a f16c tonight just to killed 3 secs later. Like some one already told you…you should play more
So you spawned in, and didn’t control the aircraft thus you were a drone.
You died cause you were a drone, nothing more. An F-16 that doesn’t maneuver is just a drone, and not an F-16.
One day you might play as much as anyone else here.
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You should try out the Pantsir. Experience the life of the best SPAA against extremely dominant CAS.
My false claims still lead to one nation being OP as all hell. Many with no counter. T90m spall liner still eats rounds still. Still has magical ERA that stops darts at many brs.
Spall liners don’t eat rounds, that’s not what they do.
T-90M’s ERA is based on NATO documents.
T-90M is at best equivalent to Strv 122A BTW, and both are vastly superior to all other Soviet MBTs.
There is no “OP nation” and the Soviets were never it to begin with.
The exclusive “OP” vehicles Soviets got was Mig-23MLD for one update before F-4J was released.
Ever since F-4J, Soviet vehicles have been at-best on par with the rest of the tech trees.
Hopefully you play more.
I’ve completed the game on air, and completed 6 ground trees, with the following other stats:
Italy: 10.3.
Sweden: 8.7.
Israel: 7.7
China: 8.0.
All will be completed by the end of the year more than likely.
You really do need to play more.
I do wanna pitch in to this. The MiG-23MLD was still vastly superior to the F-4J. At the time there were only small maps which played into the strengths on the MiG-23 since they had the faster accelerating missile. Also the Aim-7F at the time was limited to like Mach 2.6 I think so they were actually really easy to dodge.