Decompress Ground and move Pansir to 12.3 (at least)

I’d be happy if they actually replaced R77 with R77-1 because it’s slightly better

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They were used by test pilots on upgraded aircraft. The Russian Air Force didn’t have these aircraft, so they couldn’t use the RVV-AE missiles.

Why would I give a flying f about it since you will make another excuse to say that RU shouldnt have anything above I-153 and T-26

That’s nonsense. But the fact is that the Russians never had the R-77. Until the appearance of the R-77-1.

Do some research on the MiG-29S, especially the 9-13S variants.

If you’re talking about the 9-13S aircraft that was in DCS, even the developers themselves said they added the R-77 for balance.

No, I am talking about the actual 9-13 version Military Aviation

Ah, that doesn’t change anything, because the R-77 was never procured by the Russian Air Force.

Oh for fucks sake

I can’t help you with that. This issue has been raised multiple times on aviation forums, on the DCS forum, and even on this forum.

… you yourself think about what you are writing, the Russian missile was not used in Russian plans, that is, they were present on the F-16? if they even created it in Kyiv, then Kyiv uses Russian Migsu aircraft

Yeah… it’s the same with all top SPAA. Top SPAA hasn’t given lock warnings in years due to this thing called IR tracking.
You should be treating ground matches as if you’re always locked due to that.

The RVV-AE missile can be used with export variants of Su and MiG aircraft, such as the Su-30MK* series.

A counter question, when creating and designing the Su-30 in Russia, they did not meet with the R-77 missiles in it, for example, they tested compatible missiles on the fighter itself, or Russia sells missiles and aircraft with flights indicated, without testing these missiles on its own carriers ?

I mean, when designing missiles, they are tested on different fighters for effectiveness, especially for sale to other countries, if so, then they were used on the Su-30 and other aircraft

Let me repeat, the RVV-AE is not the R-77. It is an export version with a different seeker and reduced range. It was tested on modified aircraft/prototypes like the Su-30MK* series. Such aircraft were never in service with Russia.

9M37M is not good at all, unless you’re flying in less than 3km from the enemy, now this is a problem you’re making no the vehicle begin OP,

I couldn’t count times that the missile just lost or go to anywhere but the target or just locks on countermeasures.

Shouldn’t the ADATS be able to without its radar?

It’s unflarable in optic mode. Only dodge or ground hugging.

Yeah, it can. SPAA with only IRST lock (asrad, adats) is an exception. And exception from this exception is stormer probably because its search system is irst too.

Don’t you know Pansir’s tracking radar is k band? most of RWR can’t detect that.