realistically speaking 2a7hu is worse than 2a7v because of taller profile and MG-station HE trapshot
It’s not the jet but the missiles.
Thats a pretty common sense approach right there!
It’s an arms race…Everyone wants their best toy and believes they should dominate the game.
It was the M1, then the T-80U and then the 2A5. And did any of these nations learn?
Has the same firepower as the 8.0 AMX 30
Theres a lot less people that capitalize on that shot opportunity tho, ive only ever seen myself use HE in matches to pop the roof of tanks (except ytubers) so if anything the roof mg is very useful especially against lighter vehicles and ka-50s
The MG isn’t even that vulnerable to HE, because it’s placed far enough back.
The roof armor itself is a bit of a HE trapshot.
Yes. Buts that more powerful than the Tiger I or Panther at the same BR 6.0. This is why people whats it to be changed.
The problem is not the BR, but the WW2 and post-war tank facing eachother. M-51 never saw a Tiger I or even a Tiger II in real life.
the 2.7 Archer has the same firepower as the 4.7 Firefly, the 3.3 M10 has the same firepower as the 6.3 M4A3E2 (76), and im sure if i had the time i could find plenty more BR gaps between different vehicles using the same gun.
APG-73 can guide 8 AIM 120s that would be the game changer here
Yep and can they pen any armour by having a cold war shell?
Buts that more powerful than the Tiger I or Panther at the same BR 6.0
the Tiger can easily one-shot the M-51 through the hull, the panther can cripple it at the very least and I’d be surprised if it ever took more than 2 shots
Its a question about the situation. The HEAT round of the M-51 has 400mm at all ranges
The Maus never saw any tank it all, so technically you also can’t place a tank like that in the ww2 bracket.
As soon as we start doing historical matchmaking tanks should also get their historical numbers (so only a limited amount of panthers/tigers for German teams) and malfunctions.
You know you can just pen it right back? It’s a sherman, don’t tell me your aim is that bad?
Historical matches as an option, like you can opt-in for night battles would be great. Prototypes included of course
in the specific situation of a very long range shot where the tiger doesn’t have the penetration to get through the mantlet, the M-51 has the advantage.
War thunder is not just 2 tanks in a 1v1, stationary at 3km distance from each other on open ground.
that would require a serious rewireing of the Spaghettis
permanent World war mode is what you’re looking for
that would honestly be a welcome change tbh
You just broke your whole historical matches by adding that prototypes part. Historical is historical, not semi historical or whatever.
Most importantly tho historical matches would always be one sided and never actually historical due to some platforms being clearly better than others. Full team of Tiger II (instead of mix of Pz.4, Pz.3, etc) VS full team of M26 (instead of mix of M4, M5 and M24 etc) for example
You just broke your whole historical matches by adding that prototypes part. Historical is historical, not semi historical or whatever. Most importantly tho historical matches would always be one sided and never actually historical due to some platforms being clearly better than others (full team of Tiger II instead of mix of Pz.4, Pz.3, etc vs full team of M26 instead of mix of M4, M5 and M24 for example)
There are many tanks aswell that were build for use against infantry e.g. petard, pz4 f1, M4 105. These would be impossible to play due to much higher br
why not? other than the possibility of the US not having the best missile for a little while