Dance of Dragon - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

The Mk. V version iirc. The gun configuration was custom made by the RAAF.

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that’d be news to me

I’ll check it tho

Which is fine if we didnt have other examples in game in the exact same state.
Mirage 4000 had no orders from the French government they wanted to export it to Saudi to compete with the F-15. Without the orders the aircraft never reached operational status.

Yak 141 Again was never going to be integrated into the Russian federation.
CR3 TD…Say no more
2S38
HSTV-L
RADKAMPFWAGEN
AMX 50B

And are Gaijin going to miss out on the opportunity to add iconic test/prototype airframes for the US/Russia?
Su-47, YF-23 and F-15 MTD?

Your points are well made and should be the criteria for adding test/prototype airframes but they arent as Gaijin have proven.

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Been trying to find the listed modifications to compare directly but I’m pretty sure the mk.V is the Aussie modification.

What

fully functional prototypes / testbeds

ok so eh

the problem everyone had was that the late MK IV were underpowered due to heavy radar syndrome

the Australians then Suggested to upgrade the engines and then both the Australians and the British did that

and that’s the MKV

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Yak-141 they didnt have the money for it, they didnt build enough of the cruisers it was deisgned to operate from by definition its an incomplete test bed/protptype.
2S38 not tested, not passed for service (we have no idea if half the advertised systems are functioning)
CR3-TD (incorrect designation but thats Gaijin) Somewhat functioning evaluation vehicle.
HSTVL - High Survivability Test Vehicle (Lightweight)

I havent mentioned Radpz90 for a reason

When dev server?

Next year

Imagine if there is no dev-server next year

None of these vehicles compare to the state of the EAP. I really don’t know why some people can’t let that vehicle go.

There are already better options in game and better options overall for the UK tree rather than a super ahistorical abomination that it would need to be to make that anything close to combat capable for game conditions.

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It wasn’t the engines I was referring to but the weapons. But it may be British version because the Australian version had 18 guns and I think the one is 14.

I’m confused because the offensive guns fixed I t he nose were Australian modification but the total defensive load out seems off using the warthunder wiki.

"The Luftwaffe pilots that tried to attack it had more respect for this huge aircraft and referred to it as the; “Fliegende Stachelschwein” or in English, “The Flying Porcupine” because of the 14 machine guns it mounted for all-round protection.

As if that wasn’t enough armament, the RAAF thought it prudent to add two fixed .303 machine guns to the Mk. V on the port and starboard side of the nose and a gunsight for the pilot so he would be able to strafe a surfaced enemy submarine. The flying boat now sprouted 18 guns; the greatest number carried by any regular British military aircraft during the war.“

It’s the games choices that have lead to this “free for all”
And to say the EAP is incomplete is accurate.

EAP total flights - 259 totalling 195 flying hours (https://www.baesystems.com/en-uk/heritage/bae-eap#:~:text=When%20withdrawn%20from%20service%2C%20the,Royal%20Air%20Force%20Museum%2C%20Cosford.)

Yak-141 - 210 hours

There really isn’t a lot between them.

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sooooooooo

teaser today?

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Smin here early in the morning >_>

The fact it flew some more hours has no relevance to it’s suitability to add to the game when it has nothing viable to shoot anything down.

EAP was a Technology Demonstration aircraft to prove that advanced manufacturing techniques and processes could be used as well as some of the features they could be incorporated into a aircraft design. It was a proof of concept vehicle.

Yak-141 was a prototype of a combat aircraft with detailed plans for weaponary, combat systems, countermeasurers and other avionics required.

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