He’s talking about the IDS, not the ADV.
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You can’t argue they are practically the same just by ignoring the things that are better. Double the engine power and bigger weapon loads and more diverse on a single model.
I can argue that they are close enough for Britain to not need a F-111 due to having the Tornados.
We’ve been told that Gaijin has a similar stance on this topic by smin
It’s a better jet bomber and a better anti air load out while having double the horses. How can you say that’s the same.
Did I say the Tornado was better?
Good edit timing. I said it was similar enough. One being better doesn’t mean they don’t perform similar tasks with roughly similar performance/specs
Typo, I’d already fixed it
IDS → MiG-23BN and deriviates (MiG-27)
honestly the MiG-23 series fits perfectly as a comparison
The MiG-23BN is very different from the Tornado IDS, and being similar to one thing doesn’t mean that it’s not also similar to another.
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It literally does. The tornado can’t do the same bombing run and can’t carry a battle with missiles the same all in one plane. If the C or G were added they would single handedly become by far Britain’s heaviest loaded jet bomber and the heaviest missile truck.
Britain already has options for indigenous fighters and attackers. There is no need for an aircraft that has nothing to do with it.
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It can carry missiles at the same time as bombs, it doesn’t have to sacrifice one to carry the other.
Yeah, the Aardvark can carry bigger loads, but that’s just how it is with different planes, even when they are built for the same purpose.
It was mentioned because it could also carry asraams then he told me it was comparable to tornado which it isn’t. I never made an argument for it to be added only how it would effect the tree if it was. It would give Britain a very heavy jet bomber to match their peers and improve their options for heavy missile loads like some of their more capable peers.
The F11C could carry more bombs or more missiles or a heavier combination of both the the tornado. They aren’t comparable.
Aight, you win. They are totally different and both my and the staffs claim that they are close enough is completely unfounded.
Have a good day.
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You too mate.
It’s alright, if there are no F8s and Mig21Ks I’ll be fine. F100 is actually the only plane in which I got a positive K/D and simply climbing up and using your AIM9Es are good enough, just not when there are AIM9Cs and R3Rs flying around.
Morning everyone. Teaser today.
If i had a dollar for everytime this got posted by somebody claiming its real…
No F-111 variant ever carried radar missiles in service. This image is a pure speculative “what if” cope fantasy made by somebody a long time ago. Its not based on any real world proposal and has no basis in reality.
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Now that you mention it, I didn’t even bother cross checking that image or looking up if any F-111 ever carried ASRAAMs
Yeah it looked familiar so i had to go look for it to be sure but its from Air Power Australia so…
100% cope fantasy given its from there.
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