Dance of Dragon - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

So in short these mach 5 Phoenixes werent service Phoenixes which negates the idea of regular AIM-54s achieving these speeds under normal conditions.

Well I guess that seals the deal.

The only remaining hurdle then is the matter of the missiles never being ordered for operational use, but going by what Gaijin is willing to do (and has done in the past) this is not a problem at all.

IIRC one example of this is the Swedish JAS-39C which never had AIM-9M in service, but got them anyway

“I never said it wasn’t successful. F14d would have absolutely been equipped with aim120 if it had remained in service, but it didn’t. It was a one off prototype and as such f14d with aim120 should be an event vehicle, perhaps even with a f14d with aim9m and aim54c in the tt.” ruski turtle

the best F-4 Phantom is a premium

37 F-14Ds were made, and going by the sources provided by @Texas_Engineer_Mike all of these would have the capability of mounting and firing the AIM-120. The fact the missiles were never ordered is the only hurdle, as as I said in previous comment, this is not a problem at all.

tbh I expect the F/A-18 Early to be a premium. given all it gets is sparrows and 9Ms

This could be premium so leave F-14D alone

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True, but not by a big margin. The F-4J is very similar, as it only lacks the agile eagle slats.

no there essential the same aerodynaimclly which in what you said aim54 is to fat to achevie those speeds there essentially the same but have a different payload according to website its mostly just a removed warhead they are surplus from after they retired the f14

Agreed. I don’t think any F-14 needs to be premium, but if one absolutely had to, then experimental F-14A would be it.

it would ruin the game

A premium F-14? Yes, I agree.

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what source

AIM-54 warhead weights 42kg (looking thru WT values) which is a solid portion of missile’s initial weight, add to that removal of original guidance section and you get a missile with much better acceleration due to lower weight. I’m also kinda confused by Scramjet Propulsion mentioned in the document. Was the engine really the same with service-issued AIM-54’s?

then they replace the payload with extra guidance tracking systems engine was the same they where testing materials for the scram jet on the pheniox they also installed there own equipment in it which made it heavier

plus one of the main problems with intergrating the aim120 was that the f14 radar used analog systems and not digital to get it to work they had to make a hodge podge converter and the aim120 was meant to replace the sparrows it carried not the aim54

“The Navy does plan to add the capability to launch the [AMRAAM] to F-14Ds when their computer software is updated.” That same report concluded, however, that the projected costs of many other planned upgrades to the Tomcat were not justified in light of the Hornet’s and upcoming Super Hornet’s capabilities. Eventually, plans to arm Tomcats with AMRAAM were scrapped.’

plans to arms them were scrapped but possible capability was introduced together with avionics update