Your still upset, serious get over it
I get why the Vulcan (and other V-Bombers) and B-52 would be hard to place. Too low of a BR and they’d replace the Canberra / B-57 too high and they would be DOA. But Id love the choice of them. Event/Premiums would be great for them I think. Make them optional . B-17 and Tu-4 are already suffering from BR placement and they have turrets
But even just as AI models for Air Sim. They would be awesome to see
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They are impossible to balance. Add them too low and they’ll be too good grinders (which is why the Tu-4 and B-29 are as high as they are) which would mean their BRs get increased to the point where they have to fight supersonic jets or jets with radar missiles.
Which is why we likely won’t see them.
F-15C MISP II from the USAF
I think the best hope for them is as a premium or as an event with a higher than normal reward multiplier (or even as a premium event vehicle) . But at like 8.7/9.0.
Yes they would be very very hard aircraft to use, but high difficulty high reward balancing. Not being on the TT means it doesnt affect the grind down the tree. You dont have to suffer it till you get the Buc S2
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Yeah. Current air RB maps are way too cramped, the objectives are too few and lack any real impact over the outcome of the match. The match time is also too short.
Now, if only there was a different game mode that could solve all of the above… 🤔
Air RB EC
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Exactly this. Lot’s of potential additions would be very hard to balance but very cool to see.
I think regarding modern bombers they should come alongside a bomber rework update or possibly alongside the forgotten single player missions until a bomber rework is implemented.
I think Gaijin is really missing out on the possibilities of single player missions. Lot’s of DOA aircraft could be added for use in single player missions. Gaijin could add cargo/transport aircraft for the player to fly and then utilise AI infantry to complete an objective. Like flying C-47’s dropping paratroopers to an objective or providing support in an AC-130. Granted a lot of players haven’t touched the single player missions already in-game but a revamp of them would be pretty cool to see.
But they would have to create big maps for that, with entire PvE objectives and stuff. That would be way too complicated for them to model.
/s
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Yeah… unfortunately the game mode would have to be laboriously created from scratch since there is nothing similar to it already in-game /s
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I was about to mention the Buccaneers. We already have some basically defenseless bombers, but those are subsonic. A supersonic bomber at the BR of the S2B would very well have a chance to be usable.
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TSR2 would about match the F-111A. Im not worried too much about that one. I think that has every chance of being added.
Its the V-bombers and other heavy strategic bombers that are tricky to place. Even the Buc S2 has decent handling and can outrun most aircraft at its BR.
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That’s true, but only for the S2. (Autocorrect pls)
I am pretty sure a Victor or Vulcan could work at 9.3-9.7 and the TSR-2 at 10.3 or even higher
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8.7/9.0 is where I think id place them, but little they could do defend themselves against something like an F-104 or Mig-21.
In ARB you’d be unlikely to ever reach a base I reckon. But if it was premium, so really good rewards if you do, low repair costs and no stock grind. Then Id have no issue with that. Especially if it was a “free” premium via an event
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Smin, do you know if there are any Updates to the (suggestion) for the JDAM on the Tornado IDS WTD61? /or Tornado IDS at all?
Buc S2B does fine because of the internal CMs and Aim-9Ls. And whilst the radar should also be on the S2. Its actually very good at 10.7 I quite happily bomb some bases and then go hunting in the S2B. At least in sim
Just bang them on a large EC map, give them Cruisemisiles and increase the target sizes of the base objective or reduce the rp/sl for destroying bases.
Add AI spaa/Shorad to protect targets from missiles.
Alternatively for a start add them as AI targets.
In EC maps
AKA
Add RB EC Gamemode
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Only way to restore the purpose of ground attack aircraft outside of ground battles
Yep, entire reason why I play sim. I enjoy ground attack aircraft like the Buc, Jaguar and Tornado, but they are pointless to play in ARB. But fantastic in ASB
In sim the S2B is great, yeah, but in ARB it’s the definition of a RP pinata.
The S1 and S2 are usable just fine in ARB (unless you get matched with multiple bombers that are faster than you).