Firstly not relevant to this topic.
Secondly it is a hot conflict that is on going right now, so not even similar to this case.
If Gaijin is to keep their official stance of apolitical then they must have flags of both chinese governments, unless they show favroutism to one side which then becomes political.
But what about ROC vehicles pre-1971, where the nation was recognized by UN as China? Or pre-1949 if we take the founding of the PRC? This seems like an alteration of history, because it removes a factual nation of history. Only the modern day status as a nation is a political debate, but the existence as part of history is a fact.
I think a solution could be to use army / air force (and navy once that is added) flags for the vehicles, since those are factual no matter if you see them as nation. That way Gaijin don’t have to indirectly take a stance on when the nation did or did not exist.
Then for the nation as a whole the national flag should be offered, since all sides agree it existed and only disagree in the question of when. Once again this is Gaijin taking the neutral route by allowing players to make their own choice.
This choice also doesn’t have to be political. For example I could choose GDR when playing East German vehicles not because I believe it is the current German nation, but because I am playing GDR vehicles. I also know someone from Eastern Germany that would choose it as a sign of his heritage, regardless of how it is a part of modern day Germany.
Having an RoC army flag on these vehicles already confirms the existance of RoC. The only thing that having this incorrect flag accomplishes is satisfying nationalists like You. The only person bringing politics into the game is You.
holy cope
Not sure if the post was marked as a reply to this, not showing up to me, but there it is above this message, read it.
I didn’t claim I want more of these flags, I said there are inconsistencies.
In no way the horrible things some of these flags represent are in equivalency to the Taiwanese Army’s flag, much less its main flag. And note the inconsistencies: “We’ll remove war flags… but not all of them, just some”.
The way you presented your reply implies in some way that Taiwan’s flag is equivalent to the WW2 German flag, the Rising Sun flag and what they represent and that is an insane claim.
i havent followed much of anything, idk if gaijin did or didnt do something weird with flags, what i do know is that we have many taiwanese vehicles ingame modern and not and as such their flags should be selectable
It’s pretty clear that you and the people supporting your views don’t have the slightest bit of knowledge about the history of Taiwan, aside from the propaganda in your media.
I’m sure the irony is lost on you.
All the other nations and major operators/subtrees are represented by their national flag. Germany and ROC are the exception, and for no valid reason other than politics. So there is an inconsistency.
I’m not sure if you didn’t pick up on my level of English, or the style of writing, but I should clarify. If you are implying I also only have knowledge from state propaganda, well, I listen to the same propaganda that you do. If I derived my views in the same systematic fashion as you, I would completely agree with you.
You should provide evidence to discuss why it’s not appropriate to display the Republic of China flag, rather than just constantly saying that my country is bad.
RoC and PRC doing horrible things is irrevelant. Japan did horrible things and their flag is still in the game. Germany is an exception because of legal issues (And probably because gaijin wants War Thunder to be PEGI 13). RoC flag is the only one that cannot be used in this new feature. Every argument against having it or adding the correct national flag is politically motivated. You are angry because RoC exists. Thats your problem.
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That would be political. I have tried, but moderators here removed numerous posts of mine I genuinely think are non-political. I don’t dispute their decisions, but this pattern has clearly sent a message which I will follow. Unfortunately, it seems that one opinion is favored over the other, which is natural given the leaning and background of many of the moderators here.
If nothing else, keep this in mind: the lack of visible dissent to this post is not from diverse community consensus or peaceful agreement, but of suppression. That, and fundamental biases in forum population. People tend to follow others in their groups blindly instead of independently verifying information, and such behavior is only natural for those who lack critical thought. That concludes my analysis on this matter.
Complains about suppression
Is in favor of suppressing things he dislikes
Many such cases.
[Your posts get deleted for being political. Maybe its because politics are irrevelant to the discussion? Food for thought.]
Currently there is no ww2 japanese flag in the game, only after ww2 flag
If you are referring to the removal of the rising sun flag with rays, then you’re mistaken. That was the war flag and ensign of the Imperial Japanese Navy.
The national flag of Japan during WW2 was a plain rising sun flag without rays, but in a darker shade of red than the 1999-today flag
Frankly I’m not sure if the current in-game flag of Japan is pre 1999 or not, as they’re so similar
The one we have now was the official flag of the state. Both were used by the military.
Ok, fair enough
then why did the devs take away the flag it makes no sense to do it then if its not political tho
