I am well aware. There is always CAS against it u know.
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Only real way of getting close to making this work would be as simple cut at rank IV.No big deal to the big 3.Slightly more of an Issue for the UK but all that SA stuff could and maybe should have been replace with more enjoyable UK vehicles anyway.The rest will have gaps but then they do anyhow.
Things like the M109 just go into the low end of the new division.It would be up to Gaijin how they went about it and I am sure it would not appease everyone but how can you.
I am sure it could be done but think its unlikely Gaijin would go to the trouble.
When you start thinking about it there are some interesting options but when did WarThunder ever support interesting options.It is trying to steer people more and more into the simple and bland with no tactics sputa mindless point and shoot.It’s all just " Show me the money" now and the players are willing to.
Nah, just decompress the BRs like I said and move the M109 to the first BR where most cold war tanks start to pop up like M46s and T-54s…
What do you mean by that .I hear that phrase no much and nobody ever says exactly what they mean by it.
Decompressing is adding a larger range of BRs and stretching the current vehicle pool out to accommodate more BRs with the same vehicle amount. Therefore creating less “compression” which is when vehices that are too far apart in capability can see each other in matchmaking.
If the sole reliable counter to a tank is cas, there is a pretty big balance issue. maus/is4 vs US 76 and Russian 85 would suck.
Why would i play anything other than those tanks? i get to face a lot of tanks that cant do anything to me and can lolpen them back.
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.You would need to give the M109 a move to 8.0 BR for a 6.7 WW2 tank not to see it.Easier to put it in a different division with other tanks of the same BR.No harm in the divisions overlapping BR wise.
1BR has no division below ,top tier has no division above .I presume that works.We would be doing what WT already does not invention anything new.
6.7 would still see it and that is completely fair. You cannot expect the end of ww2 to have some magical bracket so that vehicles from 1946 onwards do not face anything south of that. There is no point in it.
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Doubling the amount of times this happens is not a good change.
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Think about the entire BR range - so from 1.0 to 11.7 for ground - as a container of sorts. A space that has physical volume.
The degree of “compression” indicates how many tanks you cram into a container of a certain size.
In order to “decompress” you are increasing the total volume of the container. In practical terms this means raising the ceiling: so the top BR would no longer be 11.7 but, say, 12.3.
As you spread vehicles through the higher number of BRs, logically there is a lower amount of vehicles per BR. This means that the range of machines each vehicle encounters becomes smaller; therefore variance decreases.
Compression and decompression are therefore relative terms. Decompression is good if you have BRs that are too compressed, but can also be bad if you decompress too much. In particular, there is the risk of creating “black hole BRs” that suck in everything around them (and we come back to the human element of matchmaking again). This is why some BRs get uptiered all the time, and others get downtiered all the time.
The most negative thing that can result from excessive decompression is that you enter a death spiral where nobody plays a given BR anymore, and so you don’t have player data you need to change it and make it work again.
However, generally speaking, War Thunder could probably use with more decompression in ground, in my opinion. You can tell how crazy it is at top tier where you have machines at 11.7 that have completely different levels of capabilities from each other.
A few more things worth noting: it’s possible to achieve localised decompression without raising the BR ceiling, but usually at the expense of something else. For example, when the Leopard I went from 7.3 to 8.0, it was decompression for everything 1BR below it, which was being abused - but it was compression for the Leopard I, because the top BR stayed at 11.7.
Or another example is the decompression of the mid tiers. The Jumbo, KV-85 and so on went up. This is great for the guys that were below them. However, 6.7 didn’t move, so now the Jumbo with its 75mm has to fight Tiger IIs in an uptier… which is definitely compression.
It’s also worth noting that compression doesn’t affect all time travellers. The Puma at 3.7 still mostly sees vehicles older than it. The Concept 3, ditto, of course.
That should give you a thorough idea of what decompression is. Last summer a huge step was made in locally decompressing the BRs between 6.0 and 7.0, which were a clusterfuck before and are much better now, but as a result a bunch of early Cold War vehicles are currently kind of being crucified. Because the total volume of the container did not actually increase.
Hopefully that won’t be long in coming.
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Check how big the pure 8.3 GB lineup is. A perfect example of the decompression of lower without a raised ceiling ending up with extra compression at 8.3 (you can basically have a “full” GB lineup or an almost full SA lineup; they can’t be all balanced in performance can they?)
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The BR rules wher emade a long time ago when we did not have so many vheicels in WT and the gaps needed to be filed with something.
Now with much more vehicels we can and have means to create era specific BR settings.
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Arguably better times that allowed for exciting speculative vehicles.
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Im sure we all know where to find games that have few uptiers and the difference in how much fun they are and how less frustrating. Anton the CEO likes to say that he wants the uptier/down tier because it gives you chance to fight more vehicles but either way it seems he has no choice in the matter,neither do we.The game engine is what it is.It either bugs the hell out of you or you are fine with it.
My option at this point is to press on ,be positive and listen to AurenKarach and Shadowfang and see if I can start to enjoy the game in this BR as they do.Maybe the WW2 /Cold war seam wont matter as much or even at all in a couple of months.
Might turn out to be the best advice for somebody moving upwards from WW2.As nothing is going to change its either be positive or be negative or just move on up to 8-9 BR as quick as possible.
I need something to reignite my passion for this game. Im always lecturing others to stop whining and accept the game as it is(maps) maybe I need to follow my own advice on this.
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Well… we can always squad up if you want! :D
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The counter to the IS4 and Maus wouldn’t be a Sherman, it would be the T32 and T34. Gaijin’s arbitrary nerf to AP and APCR make these counters less effective. The T34’s APCR and APDS (not in game) should have 400+mm pen.
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On the other hand, if it had 400mm of pen, it would not stay at 6.7. Its efficiency would go up for sure, so it would go up in BR too.
Which means that in a full downtier, the number of options to deal with an IS4M would still be limited, especially for some nations. Even more so if we remove “time travellers” from minor nations, and we’re back to square one. The IS4M will be spammed because it will be incredibly meta.
sad entirety of sweden noises
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Yeah that’s a whole tech tree that would just be murdered. Starting it would feel worse than Israel and that’s saying something.
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