Create 14.0 and up the fox 3 platform and also the f14

At least 5:1.
The one or two F-14s that fragged me did it with guns, and the only one I remember was the one I entered the engagement incorrectly.
Two snippets of initial start:

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Also 60 meters means nothing when we have on-screen radar altimeter.

Imo, they just need to overhaul ARB. Everyone taking off from a single point creates a narrow map designed to encourage a single mass furball in the centre of the map. Also the perfect shooting gallery for such jets

Make maps bigger and have teams spawn on 2 or 3 airfields to widen the battlefield and what potency the F-14 spam has just evaporates completely.

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Maybe check out this then ;)

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If only those BRs were balanced, and don’t forget about 16v16 ruining air rb.

I agree. Air RB has been the same for many years, and it deserves a change.

RB EC when Gaijin?

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Then it is still the strongest because there are plenty of players who can’t deal with radar missiles. LOL.

Smin told us that ‘missiles are a balancing factor.’
British jets usually lost their historical AIM-9L for balance. :/

If we can’t balance Phoenix properly, and if you think F-14 is overrated at an unplayable level.
Then we only have ‘remove the direct cause of nerf’ as an option.

AIM-54 is already balanced, and has been since release.
Just cause you die to AIM-9E doesn’t mean it needs to be removed from F-5C.

Yeah, smaller team sizes would be good across the board.

Beyond this I also want to see backup vehicles be usable in ARB, which will further spread out the game because you can respawn after your first death

The other issue is the F-14s are completely unique in their BVR capabilities with no counter, allowing them to operate with impunity at altitude and range, only threatened by other F-14s. Something like the MiG-31 of similar capabilities to the F-14 would go a long way to forcing those F-14s to split their attention between defense and offense.

Yeah, they’re annyoing. The most advanced IR missiles can be hardcountered by just pressing the flare key. You don’t even have to switch off AB.

The best guns can be countered by evasive maneuvers and speed.

Radar missiles can’t be avoided. You can drop 100 chaffs and still the radar lock won’t break. You can’t fly low to avoid it, since MP is set too low. Trees are too high. Its annoying. There should be an easy, clear cut way to avoid radar missiles as well. It was better with MP100. You just had to stick to the ground and you were safe. You could actually play the game, doing bases and NPCs. Using guns and IR missiles. Now its radar missile or nothing. Everything else is dead.

Personally I disagree, since 1DL and other issues would be brought into air RB.

Good luck competing if you don’t have any backups, or another plane in a lineup.

I’m not advocating for lineups, just vehicle backups

Still, it affected the statistics and efficiency of F-14 which ended up with nerfing them in BR.
And will keep frags planes.
And F-14A might stuck at 12.7. Unless statistics and efficiency decrease drastically for no reason.

Then if you want F-14 in 12.3…
Sadly, Removing AIM-54, just like removing cancer cells, will be your only option, I think.

And.

I don’t understand why you insult in terms of ‘you complain because you died against them’ (AKA. mad cuz bad). That term is meaningless for having a conversation.
Unless you want me to get temper and cause derailment with insulting shitshow.
Stop. You can use a better claim or example than this.

Eh… I don’t mind ARB being a single spawn gamemode, but I would like an RB EC gamemode.

As for F-14 counters. Then they already exist in things like the Sea Harrier FA2 and soon the ICE. But expanding that list further could work

Which is complete ahistorical and needs to be fixed at some point.

It’s called chaff. And we already know from another thread that flying in a perfectly straight line like you do is never going to work.

WTD61 is one the best equipped aircraft to defend against any ARH/SARH missile.

680>1200 large chaff. Right? ;)

Soon, yeah. Also tornados are one of the few aircraft not getting a RWR nerf.

Somewhat but not to the necessary extent. The AIM-54C has around 30% more dV (and the Fakour 60%) than the AIM-120, combined with the much higher thrust and speed of the F-14s they hold a significant range advantage over especially the FA2 and AV8Bs. The MiG-31’s R-33s would be much longer range (both higher dV and on a very fast aircraft) than the 120s while also much less maneuverable, an actual counterpart to the F-14.

Still waiting they model dual-planes for 54s.

SARH isn’t really relevant at top tier.

Already addressed