Wouldn’t it be better to have the current top tier at 14.0? So as to put the f14s at higher br? (F14A 13.0 f14b 13.7) and so as to keep the planes without fox 3 like the mig29 (not SMT) or even the f4s, it would make everything much more balanced and above all livable for certain planes
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But they aren’t as good as stuff like Aim-120s.
We need decompression, but the f-14 isn’t a top tier equivalent plane.
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Yh i know,also the actual top tier need to go to 14.0
U don’t play the F-14B right? man u need to understand that fox 3s aren’t magic kill everything sticks, and they alone don’t determine an aircraft’s BR.
these aren’t AIM-120s, or R-77s, or PL-12s.these are very slow, very draggy, verry heavy missiles, with very strict launch parameters. if you shoot them anywhere below 5km altitude or anywhere below mach 1, they just shit themselves and die. target is closer than 20km? you can’t do shit, there straight up isn’t the space for the missiles to accelerate to an actually threatening speed, you’re stuck with AIM-7Ms only. they lack the versatility that makes top tier fox-3s actually useful.
and besides that, the F-14B thing doesn’t even have IRCCM missiles, it doesn’t have all aspect PD radar, it doesn’t have HMD, and has a TWR lower than several of the aircraft it’s going to fight at that BR, which for an aircraft that basically needs to be high and fast to use it’s armament effectively is a tremendous disadvantage. it is literally outclassed at every fucking turn. and you want to put it at 13.7 just because of a few already very unreliable and finicky missiles? have you put any thought into this at all?
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F-14B is already struggling at its current BR. It doesn’t even have any IR missiles with IRCCM. AIM-54B isn’t as good as Fakour.
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The only playable F-14 right now is the F-14A Iran.
The others are unplayable in air RB.
The fact you want F-14B at 13.7? Sure, when Mig-29 goes to 13.7. You just want Russian bias as you admit in your post.
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The mig29 is an example because also the f16 o any other aircraft suffer against fakour 90,at least Only the f14 iriaf need to move up? For my opinion also the f14b need to move up because make no sens that a f14 A IRIAF have the same BR of f14b,and no my idea it’s to move up the top br to 14.0 so that f14’s have their br
F-14A Iran already moved up.
Mig-29/F-16 do not suffer against Fakour-90.
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You have no idea about balance or BR.
In my opinion, 8 aircraft decompressed to 14.0
- F-15C MSIP II
- F-15E
- F-15I Ra’am
- F-16C Block 50
- JAS39 Gripen C (SWE)
- JAS39C EBS HU
- MiG-29SMT (9-19)
- F-15J (M)
Only things that struggle (or at the very least have a legitamate complaint) Vs an F-14A are things with no RWRs or those with low CM counts (sub 40 or so) everyone else should be fine. Aim-54s are not even the scariest missile you can face. I’d rather deal with an F-14A spamming of Aim-54s in my F3 than a Mig-29 or Su-27 with R-27ERs.
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This is why I’m looking forward to the F-14D
I don’t remember suffering against the F-14 in the Kfir C.7, and I’m pretty sure it’s worse then a MiG-29 and F-16.
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14.0 yes moving up the F-14s no, they just moved up last BR change while everything else went down. That everything else (all 4th gens save the F-14s, IR-only F-16s, and MiG-29s except SMT) all needs to go up by .3 ASAP if not .7.
f14’s at WHAT BR!??!!?
Though we do need a top BR of 14.7 minimum next update IMO to let the more crummy 13.0 -.3 SARH or ARH carriers breath.
What man…mig29 with a shit RWR and no fox3 to 13.0? All ok man?
pretty sure he said mig29 excluded
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I think the forum nerds figured out that the AIM-54s are underperforming by a ton.
The fakour not so much.
Strange how the AIM-54C is amazing in DCS but absolutely trash in war thunder.
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I was talking about current in game performance of AIM-54B.