Chi-Ri should NOT be BR 5.7

Size without armour means that you can’t really afford to get hit, and getting hit is quite easy because it’s large.

I don’t think it’s bad at 5.7 but 5.3 would make more sense for it.

True.
But it wasn’t too bad either.
I would say it was worse than the Strv m/42 DT, and should’ve been 4.7.

I think it was a buff. Even if it increased the reload time, having 18 shells in the ready rack is a huge improvement over only having a 3.3s reload for 2 shells, all while still retaining a decent 4.5s reload rate. Every other gun at 5.0 - 5.3 with that kind of caliber shoots at 5.9s (at the fastest) or (more likely) 7.4s / 8.3s.
The Strv m/42 DT having a 3s reload for the 4 rounds in its first stage is nice but turns into a horrendous 9s after it runs out (which happens fairly often and forces you to run away or hide to reload the first stage).
5.0 might be a bit too low. 5.7 is definitely too high. 5.3 is a good sweet spot.

sure why not, i would like one of my favourite japanese tanks to get a lower BR, after all it’s better for me and i can get easier kills XD

At least then you wouldn’t have to fight Tiger IIs and T34s 😂

T-34s are ez task, Tiger II is the real nightmare.

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I sure hope you mean T-34s and not T34s 😅

wait a minute…
CHINESE DRIVER

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Flank to a good spot and start shooting.

lol

You realise its not a light tank right. Its the size of my mother

what’s so funny, buddy?

Chi-ri has really good cannon for 5.7 ?? Who are you kidding? Who are you trying to ragebait?
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Have you ever met tiger 2s, T-44s, american Jumbos, T26s,T30, T34s?
Even Panthers, angled Tigers 1s and late uparmored KVs are already pixel aiming for Chi-ri from front. Even in full downtier theres stuff like Churchill VII which it can do nothing about from front. That is not how “good gun glass canon” is suposed to behave.

Dont expect japanese tank to have good armor? No lol its just every japanese tanks are far above br where its armors are effective. It was already paper at 5.0. Why not put all other nations tanks 1 br above its performance see how their armor will do there.

Like wow. Skilled player can still take stuff like bt-5, m22 or Ho-ro and have 2-3 kills at top tier. Do they belong at 12.0 then?

When I played germany lately with fully stock crew and stock tanks just blindly charging into enemy while blasting rammstein I was getting 8 kills on average match. Chi-ri is really just oversized Panzer IV with 4.5 sec reload while swedish simmlar style autoloaders have 1.2-3 sec reload:

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Is it that I am just so much worse playing Japan which I played for last 12 years or so then? Or is it really the tanks?

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i have done 13/14 kills, 2 caps and i don’t remember if 2 assists in the Tiger II in an uptier.

tbh all this sounds like ragebait or skill issue.

“Make argument why you think chi-ri is good at 5.7 :”

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What are you drinking bro? Yeah like duh Tiger II is good tank even in full uptier it can pen pretty much anything. We were not talking about Tiger II tho. Try do 12 kills with Chi-ri in uptier aggainst those tiger 2s

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there’s something called barrel, and it can be destroyed.
there’s also something called mobility, which Chi-Ri has and Tiger II doesn’t (14.9hp/t vs. 8.6hp/t).

good mobility, good cannon, insane reload for it’s BR, secondary cannon can be sometimes useful to bait enemies or destroy light tanks/AAAs, enough armor to tank anti-airs’ cannons (even M42 if far enough) and nice crew amount to withstand a shot.

Yeah, but it’s also not that slow. You need a spot people generally don’t look at.

Its a bit hard to miss a building, then again people dont tend to shoot buildings

The 75mm Type II is only marginally better than the 75mm KwK40 L48. The German gun also gets a more diverse range of ammo (including APCR, which can be quite useful against some heavy tanks). The Chi Ri also gets a faster 4.5s (vs 5s) reload than the Pz4H, and better turret armour.

Other than that, the Pz4H (AT 4.0) is better than the 5.7 Chi Ri. It’s smaller, the hull is better armoured, it’s more mobile, and gun handling is way better and you never have to fight Tiger 2s as Germany. Arguably, the Pz4H should be closer to BR 5.0, but the Chi Ri should be about the same BR.

The German 75mm drop pales in comparison to the Japanese 75mm drop, which ranges farther away.
German 75mm high explosive filler is also far less.

So would disagree about the “Marginally”. That said, the Chi-Ri itself should not be at 5.7. Which is purely done because Japanese mains, including myself, are often far more experienced and competent in comparison to German players, who consist of about 95% incompetence. Due to their belief that “German” stuff is better. Despite some of their vehicles having French and Czechoslovakian origins.

Also, the Panzer IV may be “more armored,” its not. The Japanese Chi-Ri may be a larger vehicle, but you are trying to compare 2 Medium tanks for completely different roles.

The Chi-Nu is comparable to all Panzer III’s.
The Chi-Nu II->Comparable to Early Panzer IVs.
The Chi-To is comparable to later Panzer IVs.
The Chi-Ri, however, is super in a lot of ways when used properly, as it is not intended to be used like a Panzer IV, nor a Tiger, nor a Panther. It’s a Sniper/supporting vehicle. This is how most of Japan is supposed to play, operating in conjunction with others, not as a “Solo hunter” as some folks like to say.

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P.S: Although generally speaking, we are more competent than all nations, and we have to.