The German shells still have a large enough bursting charge to 1-shot most times when it perforates the armour; while the Chi-Ri does have a much larger bursting charge, very rarely does it have a meaningful effect.
Panzer IV has 5mm more hull armour. I said BETTER armoured not heavily armoured. Neither the Panzer IV nor the Chi-Ri are well armoured, despite numerous people calling it “the Japanese Tiger 1”.
Good luck trying to use the Chi-Ri as a sniper when 90% of the time you’re on close-range maps… And also good luck not getting counter-sniped by Tiger IIs.
“Very rarely,” you say.
Just in a single match, I managed to kill a KV-1E, a KV-1B, and a KV-2. With the Type 4 Chi-To.
Same 75mm.
KV-1E->Single shot, dead entirely.
KV-1B: 2 shots. But that’s due to my gun bouncing.
KV-2->2 shots, but that’s due to it backing up. Point is, I would disagree wholeheartedly. If I had attempted this with the Panzer IV, none would have penetrated and done jack crap. Unless it’s the KV-2; that’s the exception.
With the Type 5, however, which also uses the same 75mm. 3 rounds is not a fun game. Especially when you die to it.
Also cause for some reason many don’t understand context nor what “implies” means, yes, I’ve played the PanzerIVs,s and I am within 5.7 and a bit higher, and I don’t intend to pass WW1, Interwar, and WW2 Germany.
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5mm of flat armor=zitch. It’s meaningless.
Type 5 Chi-Ri I-II (because, for some reason, the vehicle isn’t the I model fully nor the II model even though irl it was the II model). Utilizes a slight angle. In a lot of cases, if it was lowered, that improves the protection. Slightly. But still more than a flat plate would.
Why would I care about luck? German mains have some of the worse eye sight and situational awareness. I kept hearing an M24 and another tank, and this one Panzer IVG/H idk decides to drive past me despite being sitting there almost as if I knew something was there, badabing, and he gets us both killed and decides to call me an “Idiot”.
So no, I am not concerned about a Tiger II at all. Cause if a German main is running it, they couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn if their lives depended on it.
It is fully Chi-Ri I and not Chi-Ri II which was smaller with 500hp engine
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5mm of EXTRA armour at a lower BR. Granted, it often doesn’t make much difference, but it’s still more.
Only German mains play German vehicles? What about when actually decent players play it?
Rarely… MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
Because the German 75mm usually 1-shots vehicles too. It’s like the difference between 75% and 80% of the time.
Are those “Decent players” German mains? cause i play Germany, despite being a Japan main.
So am I a “German Main”? no? exactly. Most who play Germany and are decent are not German mains. A lot of us decent players come from minor nations first. Then start playing the main nations cause minor nations have a lot more headaches to deal with, but that also means we adapt to those vehicles, so when we use main-nation vehicles. We sort of already know how they want to operate, and we operate them within their parameters. If you are a German main, you have the vision of the side of a partially eaten saltine soda cracker.
If you are a Soviet main, oh, I hope you get some help cause you will be doing a lot of forward running and no reversal.
If you are a US main, slow; armor is good. Gun is variable. But the players always keep trying to over-push on their own, thinking people will always shoot the front and not the sides or weak spots on the turret mantle.
I got nothing much to say on the British; they designed their tanks for the wrong war. Or ruined a beautiful Sherman by shoving holes into it.
It’s so tedious when people deliberately misinterpret what you say…
I compared it to a German tank in its br range…
You were pooh-poohing the German vehicles because of the skill level of a German mains…
I pointed out that not just German mains play German vehicles…
And now this big long schpiel about how you play German tanks despite being another nations main so are good… Congratulations. Though deduct points for poor reading comprehension.
Read what I wrote. Cause a lot of it still factors into how vehicles perform under players. Cause unfortunately->Gaijin is going by player performance, not the statistics of a vehicle.
Also, in terms of this “Marginally better”, the only vehicles I’ve seen that can properly match the Type II 75mm’s effectiveness remain German late-war 75mm cannons.