Assuming the J-10C’s internal fuel capacity is the same as that of the J-10A, the calculated empty weight would be 16,000 kg - 834 kg (for missiles and empty drop tanks, adjusted using in-game data plus the weight corrections for PL-15 and PL-10) - 2,900 kg (internal fuel) - (664 kg + 1,328 kg + 1,328 kg) (external fuel) - 90 kg (pilot) - 30 kg (oil) - 72 kg (CMs) - 60 kg (ammunition) = 8,694 kg.
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I think it’s more like a normal max takeoff weight, usually for A2A, “normal takeoff weight” has a certain standard if my memory is correct
Normal takeoff weight comprises empty weight plus fixed loads, oil, emergency equipment, mission-specific fixed equipment, other non-consumable items, full internal fuel, and the standard mission payload.
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C should be 416.2kg - (16kg * 2 + 12kg * 2) = 360.2kg heavier than A, which means 8660.2kg.
By the way, Gaijin still hasn’t fixed the external fuel tank modeling on the J-10—the entire assembly should be jettisoned as a single unit, rather than leaving the pylon attached to the wing as it currently does.
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Not doa for once.
Why does the export brochure show such an absurd weight for the j10 Ce then
The display board from PAF directly used data from Wikipedia for the J-10A.
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Do you know the thrust for ws10b on afterburner? I’ve seen anywhere from 13500 kgf to ~ 15000 kgf for ws-10b.
Does it get special afterburner mode like the al-31f derivatives that provides more thrust?
The maximum bench thrust of the WS-10B has increased by 12% compared to the WS-10A.
The WS-10A’s 132 kN thrust represents a special afterburner mode, as the J-11B’s air intake—originally designed for the AL-31F—cannot stably supply the higher airflow required by the WS-10 series. This limitation does not affect the J-11BG, J-16, or J-10C.
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So it’s 15000 kgf on special mode… quite good, slightly better than al41f1s on su-35 and on par with the al41f1 on su-57
Depending on how you interpret the maximum thrust of the WS-10A: if the normal rating is 125 kN, then the WS-10B’s maximum thrust would be 14.3 metric tons; if the special mode rating of 132 kN is used, then the WS-10B’s maximum thrust would be 15 metric tons. Both figures are plausible.
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It’s been 10 days since I played War Thunder and I haven’t seen it in the changelog but the J10A now has access to the wing’s internet pylon to add guided bombs.
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hold up, what? when did this happen?
taking a wild swing here: intentional misinformation?
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Looks like copy paste from Wikipedia lol, which makes sense. Looks lik j10c has better thrust to weight than even eurofighter in emergency mode
One of the perks of basically not having any internal fuel
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I wonder how fuel economy for j-10c will be with ws-10b, is it much better than the al-31fn series 3?
Rule of thumb
More thrust = more fuel burn
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At special mode, sure that makes sense when it’s putting out 15000 kgf. But at 8000 kgf with no afterburner? I wonder if it’s more efficient or not
Yay. 10 months.
Which is great for WT. No one IRL takes 20 minutes of fuel for any mission. Although WT… Not like people measure fuel in minutes anyway.
Also still wondering when Gaijin said new top tier jet to China they didn’t mean J-10B. 11B 10C/Ce or even 16V will do. PLEASE
wait for it to be a Su-35 copy paste from the russian tech tree with a different camo
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I didn’t even think of that possibility… Erm… Welp, they did say sth about Chinese, right?
I mean they mean it, i hope, or rather have a fantasy of them taking their words seriously.