Chengdu J-10, History, Performance & Discussion

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Bruh, I thought there will be extra CM like the JF-17 Block 3

Could get normal sized chaff in theory.

You could choose 72 large CM or 36 very large CM.

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no j-10b/c in trailer

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Hopefully they will show it in the dev stream
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Hard Hopium.

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Still that slim chance they sneak it in in a random dev server update without ever showing it in the dev stream like the Z-10ME
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Yeah just found that out myself and was pretty bummed out cuz I love the ±85deg gimbal limits of the J-10A T^T

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J-10a shouldn’t even have the Zhuk/n010 radar, it lost out to the 1473, which was developed from 1471, which was developed the el-2032 or el-2035
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Translation

Title

Analysis of External Maintenance and Safety of Airborne Radars

Author: Zhou Zhenglong
Organization: Chengdu Aircraft Industry (Group) Company Ltd., Flight Test Site

Abstract

Taking the KLJ-3 radar as an example, the KLJ-3 is a domestically produced radar for third-generation fighter aircraft, developed and manufactured on the basis of the ELTA series radar technology. The radar maintenance system includes general self-tests, functional tests, and tests of display and control systems related to the radar. The radar operation system is tested through these means. In general, maintenance tests not only conduct routine self-tests (BIT), but for the KLJ-3 radar specifically, faults in major sub-units of the radar system can be located through these maintenance self-tests.

Keywords

Radar; External field maintenance; Safety; Microwave emission; Identification signal

Conference Information
• Conference Name: Exploration and Innovation Exchange – Forum of Young Scientists and Technologists of the Chinese Society of Aeronautics and Astronautics
• Conference Date: July 2004
• Conference Location: Yinchuan, Ningxia, China

Editorial Information
• Editorial Board: Engineering Science and Technology II Volume
• Specialty: Aerospace Science and Engineering
• Classification Number: V243

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@Yamahagi the only Zhuk Chinese air craft was a one off j-8 used for evaluation of the radar right? Do you know which Zhuk variant it tested?
Also, is Klj-3 = 1471 or is it 1473

Zhuk-8-II on J-8IIM, an export variant of the basic Zhuk.

Klj-3 = 1473. The Type 1471 traces its origins to the Type 208 and APG-66, but it never actually entered service with the PLAAF and maybe intended for the unfinished J-8III project.

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Very clear image of the J-10C’s UFC panel

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Probably died when peace pearl died in 89.

Good news—we now have a more reliable source regarding the J-10C’s weight than previous PAF data: information from the J-10C’s (WS-10B) main landing gear indicates a normal takeoff weight of 16,000 kg. The bad news is, we don’t know exactly what is included in that 16,000 kg under “standard mission payload.” For the PLAAF, the most common loadout consists of 2×PL-10 + 2×PL-15 + 3×drop tanks, though it’s unclear whether the given takeoff weight corresponds to this configuration.
PS: I also came across corresponding information on typical production batches of the J-20, but to avoid stirring up unnecessary trouble, I’d prefer not to share photos here. That said, since the normal takeoff weight standard for stealth aircraft is clearly defined, it can be reasonably estimated that the J-20’s empty weight does not exceed 17.5 tons.

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What size are the drop tanks?

2 * 1600L (or 1800L?) + 1 * 800L

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So with 2×1600 + 1, 800 tank, 2 PL-10’s and 2 PL-15’s and pilot thats roughly around 4200kg’s how much internal fuel does the J-10C carry down we know?

Pl-10 is 105kg, and pl-15 is 210 kg. Now all we need is the weight of fuel tanks….

If we are being extremely rough on estimates I would say 3,000kg internal (at least) and 4200kg payload, maybe 1000kg of additional unaccounted for weight, empty weight somewhere north of 9000kg then.