Perhaps reporting it would nudge Gaijin to bring PL-8B to the table or add J-10C right away sooner or later. I know that J-11B and J-10B are in the works and could be released as soon as March Major Update.
It seems far more likely that the J-10A is 8,800kg as you said and the J-10C is 9,750kg. The problem still is that the 8,800kg is still heavier than the 8,300kg in-game, which still adds up to missing 500kg.
The problem with this theory is that the J-10A could likely be heavier than 8,300kg IRL, but that it’s possible people with actual primary sources never came forward and instead decide to benefit from having the J-10A at a lighter than IRL weight.
This is a separate issue, the J-10A having increased empty weight should only affect initial take-off run as well as very low dogfight speeds.
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Then make the report.
But I hope Gaijin will do something about the drag issue in particular.
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I don’t trust western sources about chinese vehicles at all, most of them are full of errors.
Most of them base their books or reports on a somewhere forum or Wikipedia.
All I can say for sure here is that the J-10A has 19277kg maximum take-off weight.
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FC-1 irl had an empty weight close to ~6400kg iirc and J-8II is ~9,000kg or that ballpark. I can see the Chengdu J-10 being somewhere between the two having similar dimensions and of course all are within the same light to medium fighter area as the F-16 variants.
It should be noted that the sources I posted above also state 19,277kg MTOW. Currently I don’t believe the J-10A can come close to the 19,277kg MTOW as it is right now but I’ll have to look further into this.
Thanks for your time.
Is 8300kg in the files for the J-10A?
The shooting range video involving the J-10A posted by Gaijin themselves says 8800kg, or 8.8 tons.
According to the official JF-17 website, the JF-17 is 6411kg empty.
Yes, it’s 8,300kg in the files. Likely irl the J-10A is 8,800kg and the J-10C is 9,750kg. Makes no sense for the J-10A to jump from 8,300kg to 9,750kg on the J-10C. That is a 1,450kg weight jump! More likely the J-10A is 8,800kg like you said and J-10C is 9,750kg.
I guess.
I suspect the extra drag might be Gaijin compensating for the lighter weight, which affects especially the supersonic part of the flight envelope.
The weight could increase by 500kg and the top speed remains the same as it’s not a function of power to weight but rather thrust over drag provided it has sufficient lift to maintain the required altitude for best thrust to drag performance.
It seems balanced for now, changing these things may bring motr problem.
the only real problem is the strange drag.
I think it’s just a balance issue, make it a nice all-around plane, if also with low drag, it would be too OP at that time.
From: Encyclopedia of Chinese Aircraft Volume 3, Aviation Industry Press, ISBN 9787802438231.
The book’s credibility is only behind CAC’s own marketing materials, as its authors are a PLAAF general, an ex-Chengdu engineer, and a commissioner at Chinese Society of Aeronautics and Astronautics. In the forewords they mentioned the use of official channels for info accuracy.
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The J-10C hanging PL-17 appeared in CCTV reports！
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The PL-17 is much larger than the object shown
PL-17 is comically long on a flanker. it would be ridiculous for the j-10 to carry them.
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J-10B have pesa or aesa?
Sources are all over the place
Some say it used PESA, some say it used AESA.
It looks like an AESA to me, after I analyzed it further.
J-10B/J-10C information in general is hard to go by, we don’t even know if it actually got heavier or lighter (9750kg empty weight for J-10C is almost a bit unbelievable to me ngl)