The PL-17 is much larger than the object shown
PL-17 is comically long on a flanker. it would be ridiculous for the j-10 to carry them.
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J-10B have pesa or aesa?
Sources are all over the place
Some say it used PESA, some say it used AESA.
It looks like an AESA to me, after I analyzed it further.
J-10B/J-10C information in general is hard to go by, we don’t even know if it actually got heavier or lighter (9750kg empty weight for J-10C is almost a bit unbelievable to me ngl)
I prefer j-10b than j-11b. I think the j-11b looks worse. Something like the F-15E compared to the Rafale and Eurofighter. Yes, there are more missiles, but the performance characteristics and radar are worse.
It’s not clear cut as that, tbh
The all metal J-8II which is larger than the J-10 considerably is ~9200kg, it is practically impossible for the J-10C to be 9,750kg empty unless they’re using lead for airframe materials.
(In-game J-8B is actually about 10,000 kg empty but they won’t use the leaked primary data iirc).
That’s what I’m saying, especially after the J-10B the J-10 is using DSI intakes which would further provide some weight reduction.
Yet Pakistan claims on a brochure that the J-10C is 9750kg empty. Then again it’s a brochure and it’s Pakistan so I’m not surprised if they’re using outdated or incorrect data.
In the US our PR guys often use public data only for information instead of sharing potentially restricted or classified data. Sometimes it’s just being lazy. Pakistan likely just went with the Janes source weights for their flyer.
I’m curious what Gaijin will think regarding this matter.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they use the 9750kg figure at this stage.
I think they will be pragmatic. The in-game J-10 is 8300kg which I think to be a somewhat realistic number even if it is not well sourced at the moment. 8,800kg is believable as well but it is hard to say the sources are accurate when there is so much disparity.
True, 8300kg empty weight is a figure that is quoted by SDF (sino defense forum) but I don’t know where and how they reached that conclusion.
SDF usually is one of the better military forums but then again, it’s a forum, not a direct source. So while there might be some informed members on there with some connection to AVIC, there are also members that spout BS.
Then again, both 8300kg or 8800kg seem to be believable figures, I’d imagine J-10C being somewhere near that figure as well and I don’t see it exceeding 9000kg by too much if that is the case.
I remember that brochure, very badly made, basically C&P from Janes and Wiki.
Yeah, I find it quite unbelievable that J-10C would be so heavy.
This is not an official website, it’s fan made.
This one is official
I see.
J-10B has a PESA radar due to AESA not being available at the time, and J-10C was introduced not much later with an AESA radar as well as more extensive application of composite materials, the aerodynamic changes on DSI intake and radome were verified on 10B which allows CAC to go further with modifications on 10C.
Source: Ordnance Industry Science & Technology (兵工科技), 2021 Issue 10, J-10C & J-16 Special Issue.
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Would that mean the thrust in game is incorrect? 19000lb rather than sth more like 15000 in game.
Also 1300 km/h IAS.
Is there any info available about the IRST/EOTS on the J-10B/C? Is it the same as the sino-flankers or an independently designed system?
Idk but it seems this data is from block 3. Block 3 uses WS-13 engine I think