Chengdu J-10, History, Performance & Discussion

According to this post, rn WS-10B is 1795kg ingame while WS-10A is apparently lighter at 1520kg.
Idk, can anyone check the datamines to see if that is true?

The engine mass is not assigned as a separate value and it’s just a text entry; the aircraft’s empty weight is assigned as an integrated whole.

I see, but it’s clear that WS-10B is heavier by 225kg compared to AL-31 as seen by the empty weight increase

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Sea level: Buff since .20.


9000 meters:

But it does appear to be a change caused by the higher weight of the ws10b

I just have no idea where Gaijin got the the higher weight of the ws10b.

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They may have included all subsystems in ws10b’ s dry weight

This is ws10’s wiki info, maybe it’s their main source

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Man, what can I say.

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They did not do this for any other engine btw, only for WS-10B did they include all of the subsystems.

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they use anything they can against chinese systems

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However, there actually are a few official publications indicating that under the same standards, the WS-10A has the same weight with the AL-31F. A simple calculation: 13200 / 7.5 = 1760 kg, which equals 12500 / 7.1, meaning that even if the Wiki data were correct, the WS-10B would only be about 30 kg heavier than the AL-31F, not 270 kg.
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From what I heard, WS-10B has a T/W of around ~8

Maybe you could try submitting this calculation as an issue, I think our best chance would be to find sources that mention the T/W of the WS-10B.

China seems prefer to use total weight to calculate T/W, but not clean weight

I probably won’t have time to submit this anytime soon, but I can post the source here.
《avicaeroengine》2001(3)

Spoiler

Only Russia uses the clean weight.

From what I find there are some that say T/W is 8.5 and that it is dry weight, but I don’t think it is trustworthy info.

14400/8.1=1777.78kg, this is the most reliable figure.

I don’t think this is dry weight though?
If we go by 8.5 then it is approximately 1694kg

Gaijin for some reason use really weird figures for engine weight ingame

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