You forgot that the rear fuselage is basically that of a j-10a. It was half-baked and thoughtless to push such an unfinished vehicle into release and then let it sit at 14.3, where Rafale, Sukhoi, Typhoon and Gripen rule the sky.
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Eeeh, considering how long Su-30SM had wrong model (and still does in some aspects IIRC) - it the least of the problems J-10C have rn
but the 30SM has a good FM, while the 10C doesn’t atm. I feel after that Flanker high alpha lift buff was released my k/d ratio in the 10C just took a free fall dive.
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Eh, Id argue the huge missile count is more of the contributor to 30SM here (and general ability to actually take altitude advantage to spam them)
Try it out this evening, they just buffed its high-alpha performance. Now it can easily dodge my PL-12 even within 15km, well inside R-77-1’s comfort zone.
it’s the radar’s problem. you should also noticed this.
when you doing BVR, the target in your radar suddenly disappear, then appear after 1-2 seconds, but the DL is cut, so the missile fly on its own
They are nerfing again.
Gaijin realized they buffed wrong aspect and decided to revert the buff.
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I mentioned radar too. The band-aid solution is to switch from normal TWS to TWS HDN, keeps targets somewhat displayed
And also I typically switch to ACM then in dogfight anyway (unless the track mode is also bugged)
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I think the Su-30 is only good because of its AoA mode; otherwise, the J-10 has much better FM than the Su-30, and frankly, that sums up the Su-30’s gameplay very well: AoA is mandatory in dogfights, otherwise the plane gets turnspeeded by many aircraft of its BR. But otherwise, yes, overall the Su-30 has a good module
I’m just nitpicking
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the J-10 has the AoA button as well
Without the AoA mod, it’s clear that the Su-30s aren’t all that great. For me, in terms of energy management, a J-10C is much better at low speeds. While an Su-30 will burn through everything while turning, the J-10C offers a bit more leeway
But a high AoA plus an R73 is a big advantage… even if it can be countered
Yes, of course, but on the Su, the AoA mode is effective at 700 km/h, whereas on the J10 it doesn’t gain that much in terms of turning radius, but in vertical turns at low speeds below 500 km/h it works very, very well
I’ve already done 1v1s with a Rafale, and the J10C can have a certain advantage in a scissor attack with manual mode (because it fires more than in AoA mode). Out of 10 fights, I won 8 times against a Rafale in simulation in manual mode at low speed
We can also do some fun little maneuvers.
Talking about canard‘s inherited advantages, more pitch torque if you combine the canard with the auxiliary lift device such as flaps or ailerons. IMHO nearly no one in PLAAF‘s arsenal can beat J-10 in close quarters dogfights, save for some one or two advanced flankers and perhaps j-20, if the latter gets TVC.
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Just kinda wondering, ik the 10C has a lot of problems with it right now. But given how new the J-10C is, shouldn’t it get the sort of “smart” MAW that aircraft like the Rafale has where it uses flares or chaff depending on the type of missile it is? Or is that not something China has developed?
The Rafale cannot do this; only the Typhoon can deploy flares or chaff depending on the missile type.
In the game
I don’t think the Rafale can do this, because in the 57 Air Battle, it didn’t realize it was under missile attack until it was shot down
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Rafale can do it, or at least used to, it’s one of the reasons I kept MAW on in the Rafale, least when the “smart” MAW was first added. Haven’t flown my Rafale much the past 3 updates so idk if they broke it, wouldn’t be surprised if they did.
If the J-10C is capable of doing this, I think I will shut it down, as it has fewer countermeasures compared to the Rafale and Typhoon.
I’m using a translation app. Please let me know if there are any errors.
The MAW can protect me from being ambushed by the R-27ET