I guess.
I suspect the extra drag might be Gaijin compensating for the lighter weight, which affects especially the supersonic part of the flight envelope.
The weight could increase by 500kg and the top speed remains the same as it’s not a function of power to weight but rather thrust over drag provided it has sufficient lift to maintain the required altitude for best thrust to drag performance.
It seems balanced for now, changing these things may bring motr problem.
the only real problem is the strange drag.
I think it’s just a balance issue, make it a nice all-around plane, if also with low drag, it would be too OP at that time.
From: Encyclopedia of Chinese Aircraft Volume 3, Aviation Industry Press, ISBN 9787802438231.
The book’s credibility is only behind CAC’s own marketing materials, as its authors are a PLAAF general, an ex-Chengdu engineer, and a commissioner at Chinese Society of Aeronautics and Astronautics. In the forewords they mentioned the use of official channels for info accuracy.
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The J-10C hanging PL-17 appeared in CCTV reports！
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The PL-17 is much larger than the object shown
PL-17 is comically long on a flanker. it would be ridiculous for the j-10 to carry them.
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J-10B have pesa or aesa?
Sources are all over the place
Some say it used PESA, some say it used AESA.
It looks like an AESA to me, after I analyzed it further.
J-10B/J-10C information in general is hard to go by, we don’t even know if it actually got heavier or lighter (9750kg empty weight for J-10C is almost a bit unbelievable to me ngl)
I prefer j-10b than j-11b. I think the j-11b looks worse. Something like the F-15E compared to the Rafale and Eurofighter. Yes, there are more missiles, but the performance characteristics and radar are worse.
It’s not clear cut as that, tbh
The all metal J-8II which is larger than the J-10 considerably is ~9200kg, it is practically impossible for the J-10C to be 9,750kg empty unless they’re using lead for airframe materials.
(In-game J-8B is actually about 10,000 kg empty but they won’t use the leaked primary data iirc).
That’s what I’m saying, especially after the J-10B the J-10 is using DSI intakes which would further provide some weight reduction.
Yet Pakistan claims on a brochure that the J-10C is 9750kg empty. Then again it’s a brochure and it’s Pakistan so I’m not surprised if they’re using outdated or incorrect data.
In the US our PR guys often use public data only for information instead of sharing potentially restricted or classified data. Sometimes it’s just being lazy. Pakistan likely just went with the Janes source weights for their flyer.
I’m curious what Gaijin will think regarding this matter.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they use the 9750kg figure at this stage.
I think they will be pragmatic. The in-game J-10 is 8300kg which I think to be a somewhat realistic number even if it is not well sourced at the moment. 8,800kg is believable as well but it is hard to say the sources are accurate when there is so much disparity.
True, 8300kg empty weight is a figure that is quoted by SDF (sino defense forum) but I don’t know where and how they reached that conclusion.
SDF usually is one of the better military forums but then again, it’s a forum, not a direct source. So while there might be some informed members on there with some connection to AVIC, there are also members that spout BS.
Then again, both 8300kg or 8800kg seem to be believable figures, I’d imagine J-10C being somewhere near that figure as well and I don’t see it exceeding 9000kg by too much if that is the case.
I remember that brochure, very badly made, basically C&P from Janes and Wiki.
Yeah, I find it quite unbelievable that J-10C would be so heavy.