I’m looking big-picture here. To my observation, the Maus’s BR is propped up on stilts - all the tank rounds that should wipe the floor with it are nerfed into oblivion due to endless screaming by Russian heavy tank mains (IS-3, IS-4M, IS-6, T-54s), who successively got APCR, then APDS, then HESH, then HEAT, and all manner of ordinance nerfed on top of that. Thus due to those things not killing it when they should, the Maus dies less and has the ability to kill more things before being whittled down. Thus its stats get propped up and look better than it should be.
Thus that’s where I get my logic of “make the counters work as they should, and the Maus loses its artificial fake survivability.”
Yes, that is partly the point. 20-pdr APDS plus stabilizers should mop the floor with basically anything from WW2. The 32-pdr is totally missing its APDS.
And no the Maus isn’t impossible to balance, not nearly. All the things which should be able to kill it easily were nerfed to satisfy the crying of Russian heavy tank mains.
and the APDS round already counters the maus still you can pen its cheak and knock its gunner and loader still and same with APCR or HEAT they all work the MK3 is one of the maus kill farmers heats actually one shoted me before through the manlet it was the 90mm heat of the M46
unerfing said rounds would create even bigger performance gaps between br due to not everyone having them aswell as not every tank has HEAT FS not every tank has APDS or APCR and different APCR rounds work a lot better than others
Yes, now imagine that but much more easily. Even the annoying “buh muh jumBO!!” folks would be able to frontally pen it at close range. Nevermind 17-pdr, 20-pdr, and various 90mm APCRs. Any HEATFS better than 90mm M348 or 85mm HEATFS are frankly overkill.
Hence I stand by my 7.0 BR recommendation for the thing. The IS-4 has a bit better mobility but a substantially worse gun and longer reload time, thus I also recommend 7.0 on that too. And 6.7 on the IS-3 for the same reasons.
APCR is not pen nerfed they use a pen formula not IRL stats it calculates based on weight and speed its called like jacobs de marre formula or something
And a formula can be corrected. Hell, I built a corrected version of Gaijin’s DeMarre formula that does just that. If I can do that with free time between PhD dissertation sections and Google AI, so can Gaijin.
So what? The Jumbo has an exceptionally weak gun for its own BR - if you spawn something with an already weak gun at its own BR in matches a whole BR higher than that, that is your own damn fault and you should get zero handouts.
they wouldnt ever correct it as that would cause many vehicles to be raised like literally every tank from low tier to toptier would need to be revaluated
yes just punish a player whos grinding said vehicle out very smart like someone who just got there first 5.7 just to get forced in a mega uptier where they just die
this is a game there this thing called balance this isnt real life if gaijin wanted to make this simulator they would allow we would have M48 vs T34-85s and PT-76s and T55s VS M1 abrams its not a fair way to make a game fun cause thats there goal is to make you want to keep playing
Many vehicles would go up or down. Vehicles with high-pen rounds would likely see some increase.
Yes, undoing all the idiotic nerfs to ammunition would likely demand at least 4 additional entire BRs added starting at 5.7, possibly more still.
Undoing APCR nerfs would correct so many problems at all BR ranges of the game.
It’s your choice to spawn the 75 Jumbo in 6.7 games as your first vehicle. If you jump up to 5.7 without multiple 5.7 machines researched to form a full lineup which has proper uptier insurance, that is your own damn fault. I have zero sympathy for folk like that who then start crying - let natural selection do its work.
At some point you gotta stop coddling idiots, or they’ll only become dumber still and then demand further nerfing “for balans.”
Hell, to further condemn the Jumbo whiners, I also think barrels should be made immune to all damage, because they already clip through walls and terrain. Without that irritating crutch, Jumbo stats would crater and both would likely fall in BR considerably.
I am not proposing this. I am referring to the capabilities of the vehicles themselves.
yeah and gaijin did a decent job of balancing out a UNBALNACBLE MODE as tanks are just inherently unfair. unerfing every vehicle would literally screw over half of every tech tree for example Japan there tanks only have uncapped APHE no APCR no HEAT no APDS non of that all you get is APHE and HE thats it there are many tanks like this
also sweden which literally has APDS AT RESERVE TIER what you gonna do about them take away there reserves ?
instead of just re writing the entire game there literally a infinitely easier option which would be Decompression as gaijin has adjusted lowtier in years
It’s not that unbalanceable. Stop being overly dramatic.
Undoing nerfs on many rounds would definitely make the Chi-Ri come down to a sane BR. But the rest of them are already at alright enough BRs. Other than the now-removed Ho-Ri TDs, Japan has no WWII-era stuff of its own above 5.0-grade material that aren’t American tech.
If there are no replacement reserve tanks to give them the APDS could just be removed from their two reserve tanks.
See but based on what I have seen, Snail needs a reason to decompress things, which classically has been “we added more stuff and need more BRs to fit it all.”
I would give then a totally different one - “vehicles that used to play nice no longer do, we need more space to fit them in a balanced manner.”
really in aircraft you can 2v1 and win in tanks if you get 2v1d you get brutally murdered on reload theres a lot downsides to tanks
for example Up tiers are infinitely worse for tanks as in a uptier your fighting infinitely better vehicles in a full up tier with way better armor speed and guns while you can barely pen them ?
meanwhile in a plane uptier you can beat a higher tier vehicle if your good enough