Change the br of the AV-8B (NA) to 10.7 for god's sake

Why does it have the same BR in RB and SIm?

I guess the same reason the tonkas are over BRd as they can bomb bases. There really isnt any hope for WT.
Balancing the game over silver made= straight up snail greed

Back to the subject. The harrier could be moved down. No real difference between it and existing 11.0 harriers

We have f18s, with HMD, BOL, upgraded engines for eg at same BR of ones that dont. So snail logic says 11.0 when?

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Let’s take your reasoning to 11.3.

There’s 1000 BR 12 waiting

But only 15 BR 10.3

Then playing 11.3 you’re getting with the majority and getting BR 12. Full uptiers all the time just like 11.0

Theres not though

10.3 is packed just like 12.0.

This can also be seen very easily at 8.3- most ganes are 9.3 playing the mig15 bis
While the mig 15bis ish at 8.0 is a different game. Only difference is 9 3 is packed. 9.0 is dead.

Playing 13.7 right now = loads of downtiers due to f18 spam. I feel a little sry for them as they are in every game i play 13.0- 13.7 without fail.

Saturated BRs are effecring MM IMO.

alright then why doesn’t 11.0 get downtiered to 10.3 as often as 12.0?

I dont have the MM code. Just 11k games in 10 months and the pattern is obvious.

Could be it searches full up/ down first. Could be it that 11.0 is a popular bracket filler as it rarely finds 10.0. Could be anything…

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Alright then…

That would be very stupid but somehow it wouldn’t surprise me from Gaijin

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I said before on this post that I agreed with you on descompression, but I doubt gaijin will do this. So, temporarily 11.0 is the best option for those harriers.

Ik but i don’t have the flight stick

Quite surprising, because you literally backstabbed me 4 days ago.
:|
So I thought you were disagreeing with decompression, and took it out on me.

Yes. I also doubt it.
Gaijin never does something good on time. especially when it is related to British-built things.

Gaijin’s way of solving this will be one of two.

1- Ignores Harrier 2 and lets them forever suffer by F/A-18A.
2- send them down to 11.0 but NOT TEMPORARILY.

For sure. I never noticed it, but the british Sea Harrier at 13.0 is the old Harrier 1. Additionally it lacks of 2 9M/120A and has the least amount of thrust.
So Britain has the worst 13.0.


Not really. :-P

Would be unfair for the japanese/british, Harrier 1 at the same BR. But would fit GJN logic.

I don’t think a Harrier 2 at 11.3 with 4 9Ls is a bad thing.

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I bought it, it’s an excellent aircraft for SB. And its BR is lower than that of the American Harrier.

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I think its still better than the f14b

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Well… what I meant was
AV-8B(NA) and Harrier T.10, which are currently 11.3BR…

I also had a fine time with Harrier GR.7. Only at era when F-14A IRIAF was 12.7 would be the only exception bc the whole team was f-ed up by fakour.
(I am a bit unsure that I can manage that bc I never flew her after the introduction of Hornets)

Yeah, in GJN logic, by those who love Smashburger, they will easily fit on 11.0BR.
And SHAR FRS.1 and AV-8S(Late) are going to be doomed, as I explained to OP earlier in this topic.

Problem is compression and those damn 12.0-12.3BR jets.
Not the Harrier’s one.
I disagree about sending them down, but if we reaally need to buff them, in Gaijin logic, buffing them down to 11.0 would be only fitting option :|

I pre ordered T.10 but I was quite surprised about T.10 and 8B(NA) has different ASB BR. I thought T.10 were another F-4J(UK) case.

Same BR(11.3), same price(70$), worse acting, and discontiuned.
That was… really surprising info.

I never knew that F-14B

  • flew subsonic
  • Can Carry 6 missiles at maximum
  • need to sacrifice two IR missile if you want BOL
  • has 30mm ADEN

:/

I mean

the harrier still has a lot better missile kit

instead of being stuck with sparrows and 9ls at 13.0 you get some amraams and 9ms

Subsonic fired AMRAAMs are probably not that far off the Aim-54s that the F-14B can carry, and the F-14B can carry 6x Aim-54s + 2x 9Ls + 2x BOL. All whilst being supersonic and it has a gun.

FA2 is limited to 4 hard points which handle both missiles and guns. Maximum number of ARH are 4x AMRAAM and with that, that is no guns and no IR missiles but still the 2x BOL. If I run an Aim-9M (singular) that will replace 1x Aim-120 but allow me to maintain the BOL. Though I dont consider them good enough to be worthwhile

In a straight head to head dogfight, the F-14B would control the fight unless the pilot was stupid enough to go low and slow and only if the FA2 had a gun equipped at all.

FA2 has better RWR and Radar, but is obviously subsonic

I personally would consider the FA2 onpar with the F-14A currently at 12.7. At least with the Harrier in its current state

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they very much are

having used both the aim 54s can be easily kinetically dodged even if launched in optimal conditions

where with amraams even launched from subsonic if you time your launch right there is nothing they can do

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Disagree is the right decision. There is no option except global decompression.
Think about all flareless 10.0 and how many planes with all aspect missiles they face currently. Don’t bring them 2 more…
And always have in mind, this is a Harrier 2. They turn like hell. Everything at the same energy state is breakfast.

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then change the sea harrier frs1 to 10.7 and sea harrier frs1e to 10.3

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Why so shy?
Let’s put the Harriers GR1 + GR3 to 9.3.

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