Mock up apparently
Mock up as well
CLIP only has a 9 round ammo rack
Street fighter 2 was a mockup, and doesn’t even add anything anyway, just more weight. Literally just crew fantasies.
CSP is a CR3TD without the L/55 & upgraded sights.
What your probably referring to as a CR3 with Trophy and a 1500hp engine, is a later mock-up built on the CR3 TD we have in game.
The Brimstone launcher was a mockup I think. They other stuff, like the dozer blade and cameras were real though
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It is better to change the advanced technology demonstration car (ATD) in the current game to a real Challenger 3 prototype, just like the CV90105TML was modified to CV90105XC8. At least the armour and equipment will be more perfect than the current crippled state.
Although I personally don’t think that Gaijin will give British players the same preferential treatment as in Sweden, it would be good if this modification plan was successfully implemented.
ATD
Prototype
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Yes, but thats like useless stuff, the brimstone wiuld be only thing worth the implementation
Here is the Challenger 2 Streetfighter 2:
Here is the Challenger 2 CSP
I didn’t know the CR 2 CLIP had a 9 rd. ready rack but this would mean that Gaijin could give it a 5s reload
Sweden’s “preferential treatment” really ain’t all you think it is cut out to be. The change to 90105TML was on account of it being dubiously historical (and a smaller target so easier to use) and refreshing a premium gets it sold more. The ground tree is full of errors that no one really cares enough about to get fixed (because they don’t listen and it isn’t premium), the aircraft get hatchets taken to them the moment the yanks are even vaguely upset by them. Only thing really saving it is the fact fat leopards are incredibly hard to fuck up, modeling wise (they still have some issues).
You might manage to get them to change the chally tech demo, but you’d be fighting an uphill battle. Only real way you’d get stuff fixed (as has historically been the case for minor nations) is if it is a premium and even then, Sweden only got it because they could make a flashy sale of the thing.
The history of ATD is also suspicious enough. First, Gaijin fabricated a 1500HP engine and was soon repaired by the 1200HP engine announced by the British Ministry of Defence. Secondly, the turret tail compartment ammunition relief baffle, which can be seen in the firepower demonstration video, can be ignored by Gaijin as The demonstration vehicle does not “allow” the function of ammunition pressure relief. This is really too historical.
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I’m not disagreeing with the chally being shafted. I like challies, I want challies to be good (they never will be at this rate, but I want them to be), just giving you the background on why they changed the 90105. It was a premium they could make cash off of by refreshing it.
If it weren’t premium, nothing would have been done for it.
I’ve heard it’s 6 rounds
As for the engine, I don’t recall seeing anything that suggests that the TD (which was used as Rhm/RBSL’s LEP demonstrator prior to May 2021) received any changes there. If anything they should rename the engine in-game to be in line with the other CR2s
The latest public known CR 3 has Trophy APS and the 1500hp engine
Edit: The CR 3(P) the -devserver CR 3- had the 1500hp engine but it was wrong
No. From what I understand (and I could never keep up with the convos, so someone else is probably better on the details)
The original proposal for the CR3 included an upgraded 1500hp engine and a lot of the early prototypes included the necessary parts for exactly that.
Then something changed, but it was still planned to get certain upgraded parts like a transmission meant for 1350hp but was dropped as a cost saving measure or something.
Anyway, the latest publicly seen CR3 has a 1200hp engine, the same from the CR2.
Now the issue in war thunder… The CR3TD is… wierd. It has some parts that were planned but not yet installed (like the LWR) but planned parts (at the time) like the upgraded engine aren’t included. Nor does it include the planned spall liners or armour.
Its a really wierd amalgam of different tanks that is entirely and completely Gaijins doing to make it one of the worst top tier tanks in game.
The Full production CR3 though should be pretty good
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What I said was from what I saw at the beginning of this forum and I what I’ve seen elsewhere, but people are also asking why the CR 3TD is still 11.7 and not 12.0, it’s quite simple; there is little special about it compared to other CR 2s
Yep.
- Less armour/lower survivability
- Equal mobility
- lower rate of fire.
and thats just compared to the base CR2.
BN adds better optics and APS
2E adds better mobility,
The only way they could have made the CR3 are viable pick in a line up, was to give it a 5 second reload with DM53, like they did for the Ariete.
I don’t understand why they didn’t just add the CR 2 CLIP, like it is a regular CR 2 but with the same gun as the Leo 2A7 and would have been a better fit the the CR 3TD.
Yes the CLIP would have a smaller ready rack but with same decent armour and sights of the CR 2 would make it worth the grind, another upside is we know enough about it unlike the current in-game CR 3TD
Because it would have been a good top tier tank.
This is what annoys me the most. The fact that we can’t have Blowout panels on the 3TD because “nuh uh we don’t think so” but they nerfed the engine because that’s what would be on thr Production.
For all we know the “3TD” could be running around with a 1350, or 1500hp engine (unlikely though it may be) - It feels very blatantly like Gaijin are picking and choosing what to add and what not to give to the CR3TD. And that, is not fair at all.
That’s like ripping sweets off a kid and then buying a bar of chocolate for yourself lmao
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Just wait till they do this with the Production CR3.
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Does the Leopard 2 have working blowout panel or no?