We need full cammo nettings, for all of them
It’s interesting to see just how quick this thread died. Like we got to 10k posts on part 1 and then Gaijin said “Nuh uh shut up we know best, clear marketing lies” and now part 2 is just 2.2k in and it’s pretty bleak.
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A lot of the people who were putting all the time and effort I think have simply given up and a few have quit the game entirely and never plan to look back
I think that’s only Legwolf. Everyone else is still here methinks.
Im fairly certain there are a few others, but yes, he would be the main one
Take a look:
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i might make a report about the missing CR 2 Mantlet Composites from the images i sent before this or next week
also have some fun excerpts from Haynes Challenger 2 Book (might sound just like a random book but its main sources are actual MoD people, tank crews n the official manuals)
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Clear Marketing Lie
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What images indicate it has mantlet composite?
In the Chally 2 rework post they clearly say even Gaijin believe it has “combined armour” in the mantlet, does this mean composite or just multiple plates? I’m not sure. However, we never saw any kind of real armour added as we all know.
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Damn, even i forgot they mentioned this… Good bet gaijin did as well.
Yep, and I doubt they’ll listen even if we bring up the fact they went back on their word.
Perhaps they meant “combined” armour as in the fact the mantlet has two plates at its face, which is modelled ingame. This dosen’t change the fact the mantlets actual protection is a complete joke.
There was a time on the dev server where it was around 550mm for the mantlet, which was perfect, then on live it got put back to being terrible.
There was a time when the TES side protection gave 1200mm of ce protection as well as tandem protection. Guess what happened there.
I remember this lol, now it provides less protection than ERA which is 1/4 the thickness and weight
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dont worry, buffs/fixes were forwarded as suggestions 2 years ago, im sure it’ll be resolved any day now
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What do you mean, of course this 10 tons of ERA can barely stop an RPG. It would be obsurd to expect it to be able to
/s :P
they added all that weight for fun!
Battle scars (more recently even ukraine damage reports) show that the composite slabs are supported by screws (even in a damage report that broke the upper cheek roof showed the internal slabs to be held by such screws), and in such battle reports it also shows that the angled front part of the mantlet does have such composite slab screws, so its pretty correlatable to see that it has mantlet composite
I know which photos you mean everything does seem to indicate composite is there but gaijin just decided no. If someone hasn’t made a report using these photos, I may be able to make one assuming the photos aren’t sensitive.
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Can always DM someone like a Gunjob and check to see if he thinks they are okay to be used.
aye ofc then, if they are there are still some correlations to use as im pretty sure even Challenger 1 used the same type of composite slab fixation as shown in some old abandoned tanks, + im pretty sure i remember some photos of Challenger 2 factory new without the outer tin lining n it showed the screws pretty well, gotta find it again tho xd