Damn, even i forgot they mentioned this… Good bet gaijin did as well.
Yep, and I doubt they’ll listen even if we bring up the fact they went back on their word.
Perhaps they meant “combined” armour as in the fact the mantlet has two plates at its face, which is modelled ingame. This dosen’t change the fact the mantlets actual protection is a complete joke.
There was a time on the dev server where it was around 550mm for the mantlet, which was perfect, then on live it got put back to being terrible.
There was a time when the TES side protection gave 1200mm of ce protection as well as tandem protection. Guess what happened there.
I remember this lol, now it provides less protection than ERA which is 1/4 the thickness and weight
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dont worry, buffs/fixes were forwarded as suggestions 2 years ago, im sure it’ll be resolved any day now
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What do you mean, of course this 10 tons of ERA can barely stop an RPG. It would be obsurd to expect it to be able to
/s :P
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they added all that weight for fun!
Battle scars (more recently even ukraine damage reports) show that the composite slabs are supported by screws (even in a damage report that broke the upper cheek roof showed the internal slabs to be held by such screws), and in such battle reports it also shows that the angled front part of the mantlet does have such composite slab screws, so its pretty correlatable to see that it has mantlet composite
I know which photos you mean everything does seem to indicate composite is there but gaijin just decided no. If someone hasn’t made a report using these photos, I may be able to make one assuming the photos aren’t sensitive.
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Can always DM someone like a Gunjob and check to see if he thinks they are okay to be used.
aye ofc then, if they are there are still some correlations to use as im pretty sure even Challenger 1 used the same type of composite slab fixation as shown in some old abandoned tanks, + im pretty sure i remember some photos of Challenger 2 factory new without the outer tin lining n it showed the screws pretty well, gotta find it again tho xd
Sure, I’ve posted them here before and they are widely available on the internet, but I can do that if needed.
To be honest though, as the reports already have the documents hidden to the public, it shouldnt be an issue.
On another topic, do we know gaijins rationale for making the lower front plate composite block so ineffective against KE munitions compared to the internal composite?
Britain Tax?
uses intended values for the side @ 60 degrees, more or less
Do we know the actual composition of the block? I assumed due to its weight it was more akin to the thick composite in the UFP/Turret rather than the more light weight composite on the side.
as far as i can remember it’s usually referred to as being Chobham? i might have to look back at the very bad report i made that i wish i could delete to see if there are any sources i use for that
No luck with quotes on the Chobham thing sadly
Expected Add-On Protection
Wheres this from? is this a source.
from gaijin’s spreadsheet of intended values, looks like it’s been locked down since unfortunately