The work you guys did, and do is absolutely insane.
Im so sad that tbe tank doesn’t reflect that at all
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Unfortunately it is what it is. We honestly give up at this point because its like talking to a brick wall at times !!🙁
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Congrats man, your existence makes Gaijin seethe.
Yeah i dont blame you guys, especially with all those sources
legwolf was done so incredibly dirty, poor guy didnt deserve that
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I used challenger 2 as an example in this, but it might be something people here are interested in! It could potentially help challenger 2 a little bit by allowing players to add/remove their ERA packages or 2f composite in favour of the basic side skirts, or hey! KFOR armour package.
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Whay happened to legwolf???
While a nice idea it wouldnt really help the tank much, compared to actually fixing a lot of the issues.
Though this idea would still be a nice addition n i wonder how it would.end up implemented.
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at least like this, you can choose if you want to ditch the armour, also ditching the weight to make your chally 2 a little faster. so it could help in that sense. :) plus, dozer blade!
Dozer blade me want.
The armour isnt worth the weight so i just keep.it off sadly. Same for the 2f keep the base package over the upgrade.
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I know it’s sacrilege, but I wish I could remove the tea tray from the roof of tes/oes.
The only purpose it serves in game is showing the enemy which hill I’m hiding behind.
Would the ecm effect micro drones irl? If so that could be an interesting buff to the challenger, when a drone flies within 50m it lawn darts the ground, finally an effective way to down them lmao
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Yeah it should work in tbat way but hey ho
I recall it was heavily geared towards IEDs - countering mobile signals and/or other methods for triggering roadside bombs, etc. The real trick of course being to create a zone of ECM protection without buggering up the comms/sensors of either the tank itself or friendly units nearby.
This was before drones were as scary as they are now…
I don’t think Warthunder (e.g. the game engine) is even remotely capable of simulating even the most basic of ECM, ECCM functions. Even DCS has to use a very simplified system.
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Did they ever actually do any of what they said they would in
[Development] Discussing reports related to the Challenger 2 MBT - News - War Thunder
Nope. still waiting for most of it and several changes that were made in that thread were proven wrong pretty quickly but still made it to live a few minor updates later and have yet to be fixed a year on
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Thats not right.
They said they gonna go trough the reports.
And they did, you guys for the betrer or worse just arent happy with the results
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They went through about a half dozen of the 50 or so reports and made poor decisions regarding most.
For example. their interpretation STANAG level 5 requirements have been proven incorrect too many times to count, with a dozen reports for it been submitted, but still continued to be modeled incorrectly. Even something minor like this:
Was proven to be incorrect and bug reports were submitted proving it wasnt made of aluminum but steel. It is still modeled as aluminum a year on
L27A1 performance bug report is still open a year on, whilst the increase in minor, it can still be increasedl
and the big one
Never made it to game, the reports are still open and pending. I dont think there has been ANY changes to the ammo layouts within the CR2s and we certainly have yet to get the 20-28 round ready rack we should have.
And this entire dev thread never even touched on issue that have existed for years, like the mantlet and the trunnion pins, those were reported way back on the old server I believe like 2 or 3 years. Still haven’t been fixed.
We were promised improvements, an overhaul or at the very least a fixing of game breaking bug reports. We got a puff piece that was all song and dance but didnt fix anything, in fact, it probably actually nerfed the CR2s, and how many bug reports have been fixed since that dev post. None, except some minor cosmetic changes, yay, the high resolution netting has a really big impact on game balance.
Leopards are awaiting a damage model overhaul right? Imagine if they overhauled the damage model by making the armour a few mm thinner, fixed none of the issue and then called it a success and never looked at it again, you would be pissed right?
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there are so many big things and little thing wrong with challenger 2, and they haven’t been fixed for years or even looked at. best example is the fact the meteo sensor mast is down, when it should be up. the crusader skin has been broken since they locked modifying it about 2 major updates ago, and then worst of all is the turning, making the vehicle come to a stop. Challenger 2 is the complete opposite of the meta in the game right now.
it has no significant armour to rely on thanks to huge weak spots.
it has one of the worst penning and spalling rounds in the game
it is the slowest of all the top tier MBT’s
its reload was nerfed so it doesn’t even have that going for it anymore
one of the lowest survivability thanks to the huge weak spots and ammo layout.
its one of if not the tallest and largest MBT meaning it cant really hide.
and lastly, its engine seems to be distinctly loud.
so while everything else is at least good at SOMETHING, what is challenger 2 good at? because gen 3 thermals arnt much to go off now seeming as a lot of the MBT’s have them, and even that wont save you as it doesnt make that much of a difference in top tier. its not fast, its not quiet, its not got a good reload, and it cant rely on armour, so WHAT is it good at? the answer is nothing, because gaijin refuse to make it competitive by fixing all the known bugs with it. It genuinely makes me sad to see just how badly the Challenger 2 is modelled and how unfairly it gets treated.
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Yeah… Its such a shame, might never be meta due to its slower nature, but such a shame they intentionally nerf the CR2 so much
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Not to forget their “mantlet placement fix” from last update which made it onto live it seems
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