nope theres a lot of them happened I know, its just ridiculous what do people think will happen, that this time gaijin will suddenly use it? xD
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idk in the instances when its not used in bug reports secretly there is probably an element of proving that they are right and not properly dealing with the frustration of knowing the truth. Like in the le clerc instant
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regardless of the instance no one should be sharing classified information. Theres an element of being an adult in situations, even if the person is right E.G with the leclerc they should never have shared it regardless, it also shafts everyone else as well, challanger 2 will enver get its right armour now is another example.
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the thing is if you are making that mistake in the first place its unlikely that you have the perspective to see the future consequences
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it bugs me because there are simple things to fix for challenger 2, and there are things that are harder to fix. But neither are seen to. look how long it took for them to fix the breach dust cover. a simple fix. and now, the crusader skin is broken and has been for a while, another simple fix, but its not even being looked at.
point is, no matter how difficult the problem is to fix, its clear that gaijin arn’t even looking into fixing it because not even the really easy or simple problems are fixed.
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very true man very true.
yeah that breach dust cover fix which also completely borked the breach
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might want to spare yourself, he wasn’t the only one.
what makes it surprising is (allegedly) he was actively serving…
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oh I know theres been a plethora of them, but are these people really that stupid xD
Like the Spanish_Avenger i have been trying for years at this point to get challenger 1 and 2 fixed but gaijin just refuses to accept all of are reports. Like they nerf challenger 2 add-on armour even tho we have shown multiple pictures documents, measurements e.g and explained it as simply as we can for them to understand what we are talking about and they still nerf the add on armour kit.
Like what is honestly hard changing the aluminium armour to RHA and increasing its thickness to 40mm and 80mm respectfully and then adding 200mm thick VAMAR armour blocks with ASPRO-HMT ERA/ NERA on the side off the hull.
I could do i hole power point on its add-on armour pointing out all the different layers what there made up off there effective protection levels at 0° e.g but gaijin would still refuse to fix it. I have honestly given up on it all !! :(
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what sources have you been using?
Go look back on part 1 of the challenger 2 thread and the OG forms challenger 1 and 2 thread !! I’ve spent years at it !!
Sorry I’m not looking through the 10,000 posts and 100 bug reports
Now you see why i cant just magically share and upload everything. Anyone who has been here since day one knows what i have done especially around challenger 1 and the pictures and documents i have uploaded over the years on both challenger 1 and 2.
Like i have spends hundreds of pounds getting documents from the national archives on challenger 1. I have bought evey single book out there on challenger 1 and 2 !!
Yet with all the info in them plus with all the other pictures and sources we have gotten over the years now gaijin will never fix chally to make it anywhere near its IRL self !!
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Fun fact, thanks to @Flame2512 we go some docs from TNA, that if implemented, will cause Centurion Mk.10 to have a stronger mantlet than Cr2 and Cr3
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Is that all…sake no wonder Gaijin haven’t implemented any of them!
people think it’s because you guys dont try hard enough to get these changes made…
banging your head off the wall all the time
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pffft amazing
how strong are we talking?
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355.6mm (and some air, but i skipped it)
Just a reminder, if anyone forgot
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I love how geeky we are for this tank. That collection of books is epic.
As British fans we’ve endured much hardship, be it from the nerf of HESH, the Chieftain mk5 lacking APFSDS, the introduction of Challenger 1s Chobham armour, and even now with the Challenger 2s pervasive mismodelling in all aspects, we’ve had to fight tooth and nail for any minor change. In the face of adversity from both dumb YouTube personalities to the developers and moderators themselves, who cried lanz odermatt and LOS thickness or whatever else garbage argument you have persisted in your battle for justice. Even when bravely yet foolishly presenting documents that really shouldn’t have been and making the news (LOL) people refuse the truth, that the tank is in fact pretty good.
The only solution guys is we have to make our own tank game. Maybe advancements in AI will make the development side easier. It will feature regenerative steering, blackjack, hookers. Imagine the possibilities. Maybe we call it Iraq war 2, Revenge of Sadam, it could have a plot and everything. Challenger 2 role playing game I dunno.
Anyway I just wanted to say your dedication should be commended even though officially it goes unappreciated it would seem. I would think it pointless trying to change this game as the devs by and large tend to do what they want anyway.
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They cant make it anywhere near its IRL self due to the absolute womat who shared its armour layout/values. Evem tho it wasn’t related to the overall armour