Challenger 130mm Testbed does not belong to Germany

Still waiting Class 3 on UK TT while KV-1E(Fin) to Sweden

Both of those are just spoiled and moulded because they wasted too much time to find their original home.

Joke take(no, not a serious debate, just for this comment):
if we can consider Class 3 as a th400 with a new turret to fit the 76mm

Chally 2 130 can be considered as literally a Chally 2 with a new turret to fit the 130mm
And Vickers MBT Mk.7 can be considered as literally a Leopard with a new turret for 120mm L11.

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And that’s why pretty much anyone would say it should go to both (the chally 130)

That’ll never come lmao since gajins rules about event vehicles not being moved to other nation’s

Class 3 was based on TH 800, it is not the same vehicle.


Neither is Class 1 to TH 400, but this one is much easier to prove, due to the fact TH400 was made.
Class 1
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TH 400
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You can see not only turret, but also hull differences.

The actual Class 3 hull was fitted with different turrets, a.o. that of a Olifant, thus it would be a possible addition.

Anyway, for comparison, TH 400 and Class 1

Class 1 (something something 76mm OTO, something something)
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TH 400 (w/ TS90 turret)

TH 400 (w/ TH 301/A4 turret)

Mock up for a dutch airsoft event? Or something weird like that I couldn’t find anything more about it

No, that was quite literally the turret it had for the majority of its lifetime (and did most test-firings with*)
In 2003, they put a Leopard 1 A5 turret on it, but by then it already had the designation R 400 (the ingame version should be called “H 400”)
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Oh I swear it was a mock up but thanks for saying (:

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Maybe you are confusing it with the weight simulator…?

although wait… Now that I look at it, this may actually be Class 1, given the hull roof hasnt been raised yet…
welp, time for my next 6h sidequest of figuring out when it was raised…

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As long as UK get it, maybe, maybe I might be fine to german for having it, maybe we can agree on ‘that’ point.

But those ‘if we only limit one nation to grab, which nation should get the golden pass ticket and take priority’ part… I don’t think we can make an agreement. After all, we believe we should take priority because we built the chassis, and you guys believe Germans take priority because new guns were built by Germans.

I reckon this will be infinite parallel, and things are not that much clearer compared to the older RAM or Skink case.

Fawk, it is a damn shame that we will forever lose a child of the South African sub-tree. :|

I mean the gun and the name is German so 🤷‍♀️

Maybe idk some turret also do you have anymore information on that ts90 turret genuinely never seen that

Dont have enough personal knowledge there.

Uk definitly shiuld get the Su 30 and the rafale.
Specialy the rafale cause i want the french to suffer.
I dont care about copy paste, just give a nation their vehicles.

Copy paste is a non issue. We are long past it. The vehicles are everywhere either way. See leopards, f16s, f/a 18s ,sherman , t72and so on and on. People still bitching about it dont wanna accept the state pf the game thats already it

Spoiler: Ammunition

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I meant it actually on th400 (if there’s anymore)

This is the original snippet, but I don’t have anything beyond that.

as you said, canada is not an offical nation in the game.
This stands for every nation and their exports. Why should germany be the exception?

You act like thats a new rule, it has always been the case. UK having not good exports to lesser nation in htat sence is the issue in that case. You could get jordanian vehicles well as example

You are twisting sth there. We bring the Vickers up because you guys deny us the Challenger 130. Why is the Vickers MBT MK7 ok for you guys, but the challenger 130 doesnt deserve to be in germany when its literaly similar circumstances? Vickers MK7 is a british project and ok for britain. Challenger 130 is a german project and ok for germany, thats how it should be.

So thats an own goal of your side and your double standard not from us.

history of british colonisation, doesnt make australia british owned. they are their own country

yeah, buit the challenger 130 is a german project, your are barking the wrong unjust tree there

buddy, i am all for the implementation in both nations.
I just wont stand for british denying the vehicle and it being a german based project
I will only defend its history, when people claim it has no place in germany

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sure except for the fact you want a tank that germans didnt develop and had a gun replaced to go to the german tree.

also “Within the limited three weeks time the work concentrated on verifying how the 130 mm gun is well balanced inside a current 120 mm turret, checking stabilisation.”

this is it. theres no proposal to the germans about a cr2 with a 130mm gun. it was a test that a PRIVATE company did to advance theyr development of something that may or may not be used.

also since you ppl feel entitled to russian vehicles from the time ussr was occupying half of germany lets give german vehicles to the french tree since it was occupied by the germans.

and btw whatever happened to the 130mm cr2 did it stay in germany?

yes, thats all what that vehicle is about lmao,

Even then strictly speaken the whole turret concept was developed by rheinmetall alone as a standalone project and UK decided to invest in it later on.

Fact is the whole challenger 130 concept is german. Look at the vickers mbt mk 7, u only put a vickers turret on a leopard as well. and there it is in your tree

advertised to germany specialy, it was a proposal of the gun get it in your head lol

u mean like the Panther "Dauphiné ? , france should get the german vehicles they used yes. i am all for it. I always stated i am for countries getting all their vehicles.
So much to your gotcha moment once again, realy stopy you repeteadly are embarrasing yourself there

dissasmbled with all relevant configurations that made it the challenger 130 and used further as a challenger 2 lep / challenger 3, which you are getting/ is in the game.

Challenger 130 is a seperate vehicle modification that never touched british soil

fun fact, i havent spoken a single lie the whole time, only the official facts.
You compared had multiple wrong assumptions and had to be corrected, educate yourself maybe first

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what turret concept? you dont even know if the autoloader wasnt something they did to pitch to the uk…

wrong again, the mgcs programme is something being pitched to more than germany and if rheinmetall chooses to put that 130mm gun anywhere it bellongs to germany according to you.

well there you have it. cr3 to the germans.