Actually, no, I believe the reason why SPIKE or JAGM-197 are bad due that they only have 3-5kg TNT, considering Hellfire/Zuni are good.
For CM-502KG, even though it is HE, but only 7.48kg of TNT.
Yep that’s weird, but Zuni is gooa as I said, which only has around 15kg TNT XD
spike/jagm are bad because of the inconsistent targeting
PARS is severely underperforming compared to what it should be able to do. Meanwhile LMUR hasn’t just been given the most generous possible implementation, they exceeded it in some ways. The Warhead is meant to be Fragmentation, instead it works like HE and overpressures stuff.
This is a game, not real world. Also real world combat is barely applicable to a game lacking infantry with IFVs and APCs fighting MBTs in an enclosed 1x1 or 2x2km arena.
This isnt an RTS, this isnt a strategy team game. WT is basically an arena deathmatch with tanks and planes. You are not going to have combat air patrol, you are not going to have air defense line, you are not going to have a thought out plan of attack.
Its 16 barely cohesive people of differing skill vs 16 other barely cohesive people of differing skill. The most cohesion youll get is getting a 4-stack vs 4-stack match where the players are able to communicate between one another in a squad.
So stop treating this as some modern combat strategy game, its a deathmatch with modern equipment that modelled anywhere between absolutely poorly to somewhat accurate.
All these posts about how people use real world tactics, in a game so lacking of real world scenarios, with MBTs pitted against IFVs that have no infantry support on a map with engagement range below 1km 90% of the time is a fucking joke.
You can watch a video from The Chieftain (here.) who explains it very nicely that in modern combat helicopters wont be doing direct frontline support like youd see in warthunder for the very simple reason you see in war thunder… they will be disintigrated.
Planes will also not enter a contested airspace with active SAMs without the support of SEAD aircrafts or weaponry and air supremacy fighters because again, that is one quick way to meet the man upstairs, but in warthunder youre forced into this kind of situation.
Modern non-VSHORAD/SHORAD SPAAs are also not going to be on the frontlines, within the engagement distance of enemy tanks, they will be 20-40km behind the lines to give appropriate support. Same applies to howitzers. If a Pzh2000 is engaging something directly, things have gone very bad.
So how about we stop using this logic of “this is how real combat works” because the entire premise is not applicable to real life scenarios. This is a game, an arcade-y tank team-deathmatch game with planes and helicopters being essentially killstreaks, not a strategic military team game built around cooperation of different military vehicles.
Cute.
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6 out of 10 matches against russia I was hiding from LMURs in smoke
The smart thing to do (at least on open maps) Yeet yourself onto a cap (as fast as you can and as careful as you have to be on the quest of getting into cas asap) and if you get there just use smoke reaload to smoke endlessly and ess if you get pushed. quality gameplay right there, but what else can you do with 3 to 4 helis up each match? /s on 50% of that
I would much rather have 6-8 GOOD missiles that loft very nicely instead of 16 slightly advanced pipe-bombs.
Also doesn’t help that it will take a bit before you see any relevant number of AH-64Es in the sky , since unlike the LMUR or CM-502KG , you have to research an entire helicopter to get the JAGM.
Oh big larp right here, yeah real combat.
Hey remind me when this game adds bunkers and trenches for le real life targets for tanks, then you are allowed to have this yap
It was pain…
And yes, those laser versions lofted a lot better compared to those IR versions
But it is still fun to spam 10+ ir missiles on enemy aa batteries and watch them go boom.
Lmurs get more often iterrupted, since there is only 8 of em ig you start shooting aa’s what are aware.
This is why I got off the forum for so long, if you can’t be useful or bring anything to the conversation you still think you need to get a negative word in about everything.
The lmur users are such pussies they dip behind a hill when they see a smoke trail getting bigger and pop 4 missiles at the spaa shooting them so now i can’t even do anything about it. They also sit right outside my missile’s and gun’s range so it’s really hard to counter. Plus they for some reason can’t be locked by ir missiles and the only way to counter them is with an aircraft, and even then the russians have one of the best spaa (and if they are paired with germany, forget about even thinking of spawning a plane). at least planes required skill to use, mi28 is just super problematic
I guess that also go for Germany pilot that were doing the same for like 5 years with PARS missile.
pars was really annoying especially when i was first grinding high tier but at least i was able to counter them easily, now lmur spam brings me back to those days except you basically can’t counter it, i hate it.
Yea easily… pff.
they are a pain in the ass just as much as mi28, gaijin do something (they won’t)
With 16 missiles you can force multiple AAs to waste their ammo in like a minutes time and after that has been done, whole battlefield is yours to click on and just spam salvo after salvo.
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Bump the BR from 12.3 to 13.0, this thing has no business being in the BR bracket it is while the German Eurocopter is borderline obsolete at 12.3.
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Move the helipads near the airfield for 13.0 battles
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Reduce the amount of LMURs from 8 > 6.
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Fix LDIRCCM. It is NOT a force field.
Btw its funny how when another nation gets something which finally pairs with something russia has, the next update russia gets inmmediately updated with another OP thing to make it even better lol
it happens over and over nonstop
yeah it is 1 update before when Germany, France or Israel got F&F missiles on helos.
Now when there is 3 more nations , what people play even more got those, crying begins.