CAS second spawn multiplier reduction

Did you even read what you wrote? You’re trying to say that because one person would be recorded incorrectly on a statistic, that means the entire thing, all the data, should just be thrown out.

You do realize that that ^ ^ ^ is why you’re considered an embarrassment by pretty much everyone, right?

Terrible idea. Actually go on and implement this. I want my German 7.0 winrates even higher:

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Some BRs and some nations depend so much on CAS that they just lose the round due to a lack of ground units, and them getting shot down and losing all their spawn points. Allied teams will never win a game again in low-mid BRs if they’re able to get in another CAS. Gaijin is simply trying to save Allied teams from themselves.

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Every single CAS problem is because of first spawn CAS. Besides, if allied tanks are too weak, then forcing ppl to use em won’t fix anything.

Ground units that are not SPAA are not balanced with CAS in mind.

Please provide example of a vehicle that is too weak at its B.R. when talking about ground vs ground capabilities.

No one at all? Not one single person?

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Well I guess technically there are if you count the CAS haters who do it trying to prove that people do it.

You’re making stuff up

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It’s pretty clear you flunked hard if you did. By your logic, every single statistic ever made is invalid because someone was recorded incorrectly.

Well, every single statistic that disagrees with you that is.

There’s ample cover on every map

No.

The only map with a safe spot against CAS is the tunnel in Frozen Pass.
You know why? Because while you can stay behind a rock/building, it turn out that plane can do something special.

They can fly

Bet you didn’t know that huh?

And because plane can fly, they can go around the obstacle and strafe you. And they can do even better. They can go above and dive on you, someone a handful of map feature can protect you against.

And as @ULQ_LOVER pointed, some map have barely if any hard cover. On Sinai bombs will blow up the building you are trying to hide behind.
Same with 38th parallel, and it’s a closed map, there is nowhere you can hide where a plane can’t spot you.
American desert has more building, but said building are next to the objectives, and said building are 1-2 stories max. Any plane passing above will spot you.
And the list continues, Ash river, Ardenes, Carpatians, eastern europe, Alamein, European Province, ect.

The only map I can think of with enough high building to hide reliably from CAS might be Sun City. Or Stalingrad with building you can enter.

From you own admission, you are below average at this game, maybe consider that you are simply bad at spotting? Everyone has weaknesses, nothing to be ashamed of.

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Well that’s what you’re doing wrong, youre just hiding in a tunnel doing nothing instead of actually fighting.

Apparently everyone else is bad as spotting cause I can sit my 8.8cm Flakbussy next to a building and be completed uneffected by the one-sided ARB max going on overhead (one-sided in the enemy’s favor).

Tell me you don’t know Frozen Pass without telling me.

The Tunnel is literately on the A capture point, you know, somewhere you fight people. Not the corner of the map where you do nothing.

Remind me what you are trying to said again?

Ah yes “There’s ample cover on every map, and it is indeed countering CAS.”

If staying in a tunnel doing nothing is countering CAS them not playing the game is countering everything no?

If your argument is seriously that doing nothing is the proper counter to dying then I honestly don’t know what to say.

And I killed a spitfire in a 190 in a dogfight. Thus 190 > Spitfire.
Anecdotal evidence is the worse thing you can pull when talking about WT. It’s not because you encountered blind players that it justify anything you said.

I was AFK on Ardene once toward the friendly side of the corner behind the barn in G17


and I came back later to find I was bombed by a plane. And hop I disproved your point.

Read yourself again, you are getting lost in your trolling

You are trying to say that’s it’s easy for tanks to hide from CAS. And i’m (and other) are telling you that it’s not

The difference is sitting next to a building works damn near every time a do it.

If you’re bad at avoiding CAS, then I’m sorry, but that’s just simply a skill issue.

Do I even need to say anything?

“I don’t have this issue so it’s doesn’t exist”

Most people don’t have that issue because it’s simply a skill issue

You are so stuck in your “CAS lover” vs “CAS hater” schema that you didn’t even think that I could say that from the perspective of CAS. When I play CAS I have a unobstructed view of the map. I can look behind every nook and crany.
“Someone might be behind that rock” I just fly above and look.
“Someone may hide next to this building” same I just fly above and look.
And if you dare open fire with you main gun, a gust of smoke tells me where you are.

The only place you might be where you won’t be spotted is somewhere you will not be looking, but those place are the place where you can’t influence the game.

This is why I said the only way to not be seen by CAS is do nothing, because this is the reality. Any decent CAS player has a perfect view of the map.

It’s no wonder why plane (and satellite/drones nowadays) are used in recon mission, because there is almost nowhere you can hide.

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If you make a general claim, then a singular counter-example is sufficient to contradict it. You respond by refining your claim to account for the counter-example or concede that your claim has limited scope.

Here’s a definition nabbed from a textbook for your satisfaction:

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Discrete Mathematics

Essentials and Applications

2023, Pages 55-65

To translate the last sentence: Proof by Counterexample prevents the last sentence’s requirements from being satisfied.

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