CAS second spawn multiplier reduction

By your own logic, CAP should be cheaper

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Actually I believe it should.

I also believe how GRB handles air creates a snowball effect for the winning team. Both caps and kills are already actions that win. You get points for winning, winning points spawns winning CAS.

Set CAP to low points and watch the F&F loaded helis and CAS think twice.

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CAP gets more kills, so no it should not be cheaper.

Prove that CAP gets more kills than CAS

Do you want me to play a round of Spitfire and a round of Do-335 and compare the results?

I can tell you right now that the 2-3 kills you expect to see with CAS is less than the 5+ you can get with CAP.

I believe you, there’s plenty of bads that play CAS at mid ranks.

With top tier it’s different imo having a CAS with F&F and ARH vs (cheap)CAP with only SARH and IR

Lol, lmao

I’ll accept that as you admitting CAP gets more kills than CAS.

If someone let CAP able to get more kills than CAS especially the top tier the problem is on that CAS pilot not CAP lol

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AD-2 dying to a Spitfire is not the AD-2 's fault.

It still is because why don’t players check the sky to make sure there is no fighter around before spawn strike aircraft?
Ways to prevent CAP to getting more kills? spawn fighter to fight him or don’t spawn CAS when CAP still active
simple solution.

They still need to deal with first spawn.

Out here getting like 2 kills to spawn a su25t with
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Just need itemised sp costs.

No, you have no proof and you going into a match yourself is not proof because you can control the numbers. All of your claims are just opinions

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A plane could spawn in after you, a plane could be hidden behind buildings or foliage when it a tank, a plane could be low alt. There’s many reasons you could spawn CAS with no way of knowing you’ll face a spitfire.

Yep. The SP change was honestly insanely dumb. Every single complaint from the players has been abt first spawn CAS (revenge CAS, CAS spam, rushing caps in reserve tanks, etc), yet Gajin in their infinite wisdom, decided that it was second spawn CAS that’s the problem.

The ironic thing is that now, revenge CAS is even more common.

Sharing an observation (CAP gets more kills than CAS) isn’t an opinion. I don’t have “no proof” either.

The fact that you say I’m wrong on something that many players have observed, and then refused when I offered to show you hard proof just means you’re acting in bad faith.

An ‘observation’ that no one else has observed

what you offered was nowhere near ‘hard proof’ in fact it was just about the most biased ‘proof’ possible

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You not wanting something to be true doesn’t mean no1 else has observed it.

You wanting something to be true doesnt mean other people have observed it

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All of this applies when spawning in a tank as well.
Except in a tank you cannot counter the plane that just appears from behind some trees and bombs you 50m out of spawn.

The biggest issue here is phrasing. CAP can get more kills than CAS but I attribute that mainly to CAS being so focused on ground they often don’t even notice other planes. And also it takes a bit for a team to react to CAP so you can come in, kill the couple CAS planes and go back to land without being reappy engaged. It’s however still harder to get many kills since you also have SPAA shooting at you.

Main point being even in matches infested with CAS I have not been able to get more rhan 6 air kills even when immediately spawning CAP.

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Countering a plane as as simple as not sitting out in the open or camping.

It’s not even that. CAS is pretty much hard capped at 2-3 kills, unless it’s something like AD-4 or Yak-9K, however CAP can kill as many planes spawns in which is usually more than 4 or 5 throughout a typical 1.0-6.7 match.

Additionally, CAS planes are almost always slower due multiple factors, which makes engaging with CAP hard even if they fail to shoot you down on first path.

Not from my experience. CAP is usually far enough from SPAA when shooting down planes. Even if your target flies over SPAA, you can usually disengage without repercussion.

You did not even read my response.

That usually only applies if you are not trying to actively save your teammates by preventing or disrupting strafing and bombing runs. Those usually happen within SPAA engagement distance except on the couple larger maps.