But a spitfire with air belts and no ordnance also cannot do anything to non open top ground targets.
That is what the planes should mostly be balanced around in ground battles.
If the spitfire can get 5 kills easily then it is your team’s fault for not spawning a fighter or SPAA to counter it.
You can bring non air targets belts and not be a strike plans as long as they have less than 40mm pen. Just goes to show how out of touch with reality in regards to CAS you are.
There’s plenty of open top targets and light tanks like the Pt 76 and Obj 211 at the Spitfire’s BR.
Above all, Spitfires easily rack up more kills than CAS, and most CAS planes can’t fight back or take cover like a tank unless the Spitfire is exceptionally dumb and takes a full commit head-on.
No, Spitfire is just ridiculously strong as CAP even at 6.0 (lineup with M-51)
Yes because that makes you quite ineffective at killing ground targets that are kore than just paper
Fucking good. I am going to start bringing more spitifres then.
So you agree that a Spitfire should cost atleast as much to spawn as your average CAS plane?
Nope. Any plane with bombs or rockets should immediately cost more than a pure CAP spitfire
Except you agreed spitfires get more kills.
How the hell Spitfire ridiculously strong? it pretty much just like any fighter in their BR range.
It’s pretty much the meta low alt dogfighter. It has amazing TWR, third best 20mm in WW2 BRs, and the only planes that outturn it are far slower, e.g Zero.
Yes they get more air kills. because that is pretty much their only option. Thus they should be cheaper like SPAA since they cannot engage tanks and have less available targets
More kills is more kills, ground or air.
In a way but just the pure idea of seeing people in ground battles having 5+ air kills is insane in and of itself. I spaded the La-7 by purely playing CAP and getting 3-6 kills on average per game.
The amount of second spawn planes i just too high. You kill a CAS plane and he immediately respawns in another plane. Often you could get 5+ kills and you just killed 3 different people twice.
My main point being air kills don’t really negatively impact the whole match. A plane coming in and clearing a whole flank however does. Just on that alone CAP should be cheaper.
CAS positively effects the game because it’s a hard counter to campers. 9 times outta 10, if som1 tries to bomb me while Im moving, I’ll survive with little to no damage. The only time CAS is actually a concern to me is when I’m spawncamping.
The amount of second spawn planes was never a problem. Seeing som1 get enough SP for two CAS planes in a row is extremely rare, and I know this because there’s still an ARB battle in every other GRB battle.
Either way, CAP is far more powerful, and gets more kills than CAS, hence should be the same price.
“CAS is just a crutch you don’t need it to kill campers”
What actually did you want enemy team to do here aside from strafe me? Perfect view of enemy spawn with 90% of my tank covered, and somehow not even in detection zone. “Just spawn a tank” they tried to approach me to destroy me 3x and failed. CAS is the only thing that actually balanced the scales in that scenario.
CAS haters complain about planes changing the course of a battle, but a SINGLE GUY making the most popular spawn point inaccessible is perfectly fine? That’s considered balanced?
Seriously look at the second image, spot my tank, and say that’s 100% balanced for tank v.s tank combat and no planes are needed.
Kill You, not hard thing to do as if You want to shoot the enemy he is going to be able to shoot at You.
Nope.
You were using a flak gun, a vehicle that can get the gunner killed by MG that tanks can use, not to mention a single HE that could hit You. People actually need to learn from not being able to kill such easy targets, they don’t need an “auto win” like air as it is just lazy.
You are only using this as an argument because you want CAS to be stronger with no regard to whats actually fair
Correction: you just want to spawncamp in OP spots unimpeded, and hence want everything that can actually counter you (namely CAS) to be nerfed or removed.
Correction:
You can’t play ground units and learn how to counter enemies that use brain thus You want something they can’t fight against because without that, You wouldn’t be able to do much.
No lol I’m not a camper, nice deflection tho
*complains about the No.1 counter to campers
Also
“I’m not a camper”
Yep, CAS haters logic checks out fully.
Sorry but not all people need stationary targets to be able to hit them with bombs/rockets
